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Old 11-24-2004, 10:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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spark plugs...4 or 2 electrodes?

hey...i have a 1998 toyota camry 2.2L 4 cyl...i have the bosch platinum plus 4's
the original plugs were dual electrodes...i was told the plus 4's (4 electrodes) would be better...after hearing this i have begun to hear much more the other way around...can someone tell me if i should leave the plus 4's or go back to something more like the factory...llke maybe some bosch platinum plus 2's?
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Old 11-24-2004, 10:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You know..one post with all of your questions might have been a little more concise instead of three.
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Old 11-24-2004, 10:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yea i know...i thought about that after i posted them...but you also could have saved yourself some time and just not replied...i was looking for help...i thought that was the point of these forums...thanks though
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Well sorry for trying to help mate..it's just you will get flamed for doing that..ppl don't wont shitloads of post by one user all at once..make it concise..it'll make the forums alot cleaner.
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hey...i have a 1998 toyota camry 2.2L 4 cyl...i have the bosch platinum plus 4's
the original plugs were dual electrodes...i was told the plus 4's (4 electrodes) would be better...after hearing this i have begun to hear much more the other way around...can someone tell me if i should leave the plus 4's or go back to something more like the factory...llke maybe some bosch platinum plus 2's?
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Platinum cunducts energy worse than copper.

My recomendation is NGK copper single electrode plugs.

If you have to have platinum(I don't know why you would) I recommend NGK Laser Platinum plugs.
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Old 11-25-2004, 12:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Go with ngk platiums or denso platinums. But just run those plugs til you start to have misfire problems. If you don't get any then just run them for 60k then switch to the ngk or denso.
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I have the Bosch plus4 in the Previa. They seem to do ok in there. I'll probably go back to the standard platinum NGK's next plug change though.
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hey...thanks ill try to keep my post more concise...dont want to get burned regularly for BS...thanks

so i should go with the NGK copper..but why single electrode...the stock plugs had 2 electrodes??? thanks
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NGK's are best, IMO, and I've used the Bosch Plat +4's with the Bosch plugs, and am currently using the NGK wire set with my NGK V-Powers, next I plan to try some NGK Iridiums.


Lain, the reason why no one likes copper is due to to the fact that has little to no resistance to corrosion. Also, Copper's a soft metal, thusly the electrode itself can not be made as small as it can be made with other materials like platinum and iridium. Finer electrodes will help with quenching which will give you increased performance.
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unless your car is heavily modified, then your best bet is actually to just keep using oem plugs
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Use what your owner's manual says. NGK or Denso. But since they are already in there, leave them alone. Change them again to NGK or Denso after another 60,000 miles or as posted above by TRDCamry2003, if you notice any problems.

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unless your car is heavily modified, then your best bet is actually to just keep using oem plugs
Not quite true. My car was made before iridium was on the market, and iridium has better performance than platinum plugs due to the smaller electrode. Iridium's also much more durable, making it a longer lasting plug.
The likely performance difference between the two? Very slim if even measurable, but frankly, if you're like me and hate to change plugs, you might as well not cheap out and have to do it the least amount of times.
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Not quite true. My car was made before iridium was on the market, and iridium has better performance than platinum plugs due to the smaller electrode. Iridium's also much more durable, making it a longer lasting plug.
The likely performance difference between the two? Very slim if even measurable, but frankly, if you're like me and hate to change plugs, you might as well not cheap out and have to do it the least amount of times.

point taken, but iridium is a type of platinum and does longer it is a fine substitute for platinum.....but performance-wise, it won't make a difference, and if your car didn't come with platinum plugs from the factory, then it may even be a deficit to your car's performance as platinum plugs run colder

but as you said, it would be a difference that woud be really hard to measure
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If you have a 4-cylinder car and are willing to change your plugs often (like, every oil change...) go for those. Otherwise, go with the stock plugs or the standard single tip platinum/iridium equivalent. You don't want to be changing the plugs on the V6 very often.

There is no good reason go with multi-tip plugs as the spark will only jump to one of the electrodes for every combustion cycle in the motor...

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ok well the OEM plugs had 2 electrodes...so should i put in plugs with 2 elcectrodes...im still confused as to which ones...what company and what material it is...coppur, iridium or platinum??? thanks
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