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Old 12-14-2004, 08:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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$600- 5S-FE Turbo....anyone?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742 ...well anyone willing to try?..... he/she isnt the one that made it but he/she is the one who bought it on ebay and is reselling it... Cheap price....but will it make a difference? let say.....about 40hp?
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Here's the maker of the turbo...you can also see more pics on this page http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7934666031
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Old 12-14-2004, 08:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, that's great and all but you still have to do the hard part; installing it.
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Old 12-14-2004, 08:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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it doesnt seem too hard to do...
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Old 12-14-2004, 10:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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nah, as long as the kit is well matched to the engine and engine bay anyone with some tools should be able to install it pretty quickly, it seems to be a great bolt on kit, but i doubt it can make a huge amount of power
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Now you labeled the thread as 5sfe and the ebay thing says 3sfe, these motors are different correct?
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Old 12-14-2004, 10:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Different size, same exhaust flange. The S series can share exhaust manifold and header. Only thing is actural pipe location and down pipe length. Some might hit front engine mount or even starter. So the kit may not be perfact fit.
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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^ Probly end up being near $2K anyway!!!
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Old 12-15-2004, 01:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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don't you need more piping than that?
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looks like the downpipe will need to be welded onto the stock exhaust, that is probably the only thing you couldnt do at home cause you can run an oil feed off the sending unit... dont know about an oil return you may have to weld a return line into the oil pan (always above the max oil level!!) this setup looks like it could get you 30-40 crank horsepower without an intercooler or fuel mods
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Old 12-15-2004, 07:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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i prefer super charger for the 'no-lag' boost and help in acceleration in low rev
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A right size turbo will have more protential and have min lag. Ask the MR2 guys.
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:31 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm not trying to knock on superchargers, but I'll take a turbo over a s/c anyday.

My friend has a ~650hp supercharged (Vortech XX trim) Mustang. Its cool and all, but it lags on the low end. It doesn't make any power unless you wind it out and the higher you wind it out, the more power it makes.

Hes finally realized that he can make more power in the midrange with turbos and have a quieter exhaust (its kinda loud right now even with 4 mufflers).


My reason for choosing a turbo over a supercharger:

1. Ability to make more power in the midrange.

2. Ability to size the turbo to my needs.

3. More choices with turbos. IE: compressor housing size, a/r, compressor trim, etc...

4. No parasitic drag unlike a supercharger.
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u know im still quite unclean about choosing turbo or super ... from the definition i got from www.howstuffworks.com ... this is what i got:

The key difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger is its power supply. Something has to supply the power to run the air compressor. In a supercharger, there is a belt that connects directly to the engine. It gets its power the same way that the water pump or alternator does. A turbocharger, on the other hand, gets its power from the exhaust stream. The exhaust runs through a turbine, which in turn spins the compressor (see How Gas Turbine Engines Work for details).

and based on tat ... tat means surperchargers will work instantly in boosting power ... while turbo ... slowly gain power as amount of exhaust increases ... but tat also means that it won't gain much power boost from a turbo at low rev when exhaust is low ... but super charger gain as soon as the engine runs ~ but spec in THEORY is sometimes untrue in real life ... so im plz correct me with real life expereiense
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ah the age old debate: Supercharger VS Turbocharger

Youve pretty much got the jist of it, but in practical application, turbo's can be just as quick to produce power as a supercharger. Its all in the tuning, and your application.

To me it would seem if you had a small displacement engine, a supercharger may be more inline, because a small engine wont produce enough exhaust to get a turbo spinning.

But likely, as long as everything is tuned correctly, a turbo will be just as effective, if not more than a supercharger, plus, you can turbo any engine. much harder to supercharge an engine on your own.
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