Are these good rotors to get?

[cman2000]

saw these on ebay. the guy said Brembo rotors, but not sure, especially for that price. I saw on www.tirerack.com that brembo rotors crossed drilled are $212... huh, looks fishy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

btw, i'm looking for brembo rotors for my 2000 camry LE (OEM was 15" steelies...i'm running 17" wheels now.)

any suggestions of which to get? crossed drilled? slotted? or flat/plain rotors?

[cman2000]

^^ never mind. Found a GREAT site for anyone wondering what rotor size fits your camry. Actually it's for all toyota's. Wow, my camry (2000, 15"OEM wheels) rotors fit avalons, and '92-2000 V6 camrys.

http://www.coximport.com/brembo/am-toyota.html

[zoni]

those are fake brembos... they are that cheap because they are knock offs. they have all the characteristics of a brembo but just no name. see how it says made from brembo blanks....... that means that they modeled them off of the brembo brake.

[MadDawg]

it'd certainly be better than stock rotors...

[Gen3cruiser]

those are fake brembos... they are that cheap because they are knock offs. they have all the characteristics of a brembo but just no name. see how it says made from brembo blanks....... that means that they modeled them off of the brembo brake.

You sure about that? You really don't think they are Brembo blanks that they drilled and slotted?

That would be meesed up, I'd report them for fraudulent listings.

What about these? Seems really cheap, but they say Brembo and show a Brembo box. Is this legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

[zoni]

those look real. you can see they are shinier, cause brembo uses a coating on their rotors. the fake ones rust up easily...

[bassthrive]

Get blanks, they are cheaper and stop just as well as c/d or slotted. The only reason to buy drilled is for looks, or if you happen to be running circa-1950 outgassing brake pads.

[anuthaCamry]

After driving my car hard, the front disks glow red hot. I'd appreciate having a better braking system.

Crossdrilled and slotted disks are designed to cool down the disks faster, or prevent them from getting too hot in the first place. Even the stock disks, on all modern cars, have holes in them except in the form of impeller blades cast between the two braking surfaces on each side (front rotors).

I think kragens is coming out with a cheap $50 c/d rotor, and if it's any good I think I'll go with it. My rotors are only .001 in. over the minimum so the time to change them is coming up.

Name brands don't really mean too much to me right now, my only issue with buying off the internet is the risk of having a defect or the inability to return it if it's bad.

The revised tolerance for run-out (front) on the gen 3 is 0.0012 inches, and next time I buy rotors i'm definately gonna be checking for runout. Bought a rotor a couple years ago that was in a half smashed box and it caused my other car to shudder when I would brake at freeway speeds.

[terrastrife]

wow red hot! that means your disc surface is molten and 1000c+ hot, what pads calipers do you run? do you frequently go 250kph then stop in 200 meters?

[anuthaCamry]

not molten, just a faint but unmistakeable red. I think I'm running stock, but I'm gonna follow my own advice and maybe get these ebc red pads and some spiffy c/d and slotted rotors. they usually get hot when I'm driving fast downhill maybe from 600m elevations or so

[terrastrife]

ebc pads are poor for street use and OK for track use with hi temps, get something bettter. slotted discs wont help with better braking.. only to deglaze/clean the pad and only reduce life of both pad and rotor.

[bassthrive]

Oem replacement c/d slotted rotors are not recommended for track use. (source: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...+Drilled+Rotor) Plus you cant turn the surfaces.

[userlain]

Originally Posted by Gen3cruiser

You sure about that? You really don't think they are Brembo blanks that they drilled and slotted?

That would be meesed up, I'd report them for fraudulent listings.

What about these? Seems really cheap, but they say Brembo and show a Brembo box. Is this legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

Have you noticed that the same picture is used for each one of their rotor auctions?

[userlain]

And here is where you can buy legit brembos:
http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/...20Camry%202000

[zoni]

theres a reason for everything guys... if you think you know more about slotted rotors than the people who engineered them for a purpose, then you would be rich. if EBC pads are so bad, why do they sell a crap load of them. if cross drilled rotors are bad for track use, then why do racers use them?

people think about what you are saying... terrastrife, you are now on my "don't listen to any info from" list. along with 97kamuri and camnub.

Slotted Rotors...

Slotted rotors are great for track as well as performance street driving, and are designed to heat up your pads quickly for optimum breaking performance, without removing surface area for the pads to contact. In the slotted rotors, slots wipe the surface of the rotor forcing the gases to expel through the slots. The slots also greatly improve wet weather braking by preventing hydroplaning between the pad and rotor.

It’s a fact that venting the gas emitted by hot brake pads improves overall brake performance and helps minimize fade. At one time the conventional wisdom in racing circles was to cross-drill brake rotors to aid cooling and eliminate the gas emitted by brake pads. However, today’s elite teams in open wheel, Indy and Trans Am racing are moving away from cross-drilled brake rotors in favor of rotors modified with a fatigue resistant slotting process.



Drilled Rotors

Question- Why should I use cross drilled rotors?
Answer- The primary reason is that cross drilled rotors run cooler, approximately 200-250 degrees, when used with high quality pads. This reduces the chances of warping, which has become a major problem in recent years, particularly on late model U.S. made vehicles. Additionally you will experience improved wet weather braking with shorter stopping distances. If you are experiencing pulsation on the brake pedal, your rotors are warped. It may be possible to turn them, but they will then be thinner and unable to dissipate heat as quickly as before, and will soon warp again.



Question- Should I use slotted or cross drilled rotors?
Answer- Some people prefer slotted rotors because of problems that came about when cross drilled rotors first came to market. At that time, quite frequently the holes were drilled too large, penetrated the cooling vanes, and were not radiused or chamfered. The end result was that the rotor lost its structural integrity and tended to crack, so slotted rotors were developed. Today, we rarely experience problem with cross drilled rotors unless they are subjected to extreme abuse, such as in competition. They do help dissipate the hot gasses, but not to the same degree as cross drilled, usually lowering operating temperatures about 100 degrees. They also tend to wear brake pads quicker because the slots act like a razor blade each time they go by. We always recommend cross drilled unless you are particularly concerned with structural integrity.



Brembo Drilled Rotors

Brembo Sport drilled brake rotors are for drivers who want to improve the looks and performance of their vehicle’s original braking system without having to change additional brake components. Brembo Sport drilled brake rotors provide excellent stopping power in everyday traffic, as well as more spirited, high performance street and highway driving.

Brembo Sport drilled brake rotors match the vehicle’s original equipment rotor’s dimensions and are fully compatible with its hubs, brake calipers and road wheels. Front and rear Brembo Sport drilled brake rotors are available to provide a matched appearance on all four corners of the vehicle, and employ one-piece vented or solid rotors depending on the vehicle’s original equipment specifications.

Starting with select castings, Brembo Sport drilled brake rotors undergo the race-born practice of cross drilling to provide multiple paths to disperse built-up heat and gasses. The Brembo Sport rotor’s cross-drilled holes are bi-angle chamfered at the rotor’s outer surfaces to help reduce the cracking caused by repeated, high stress, high temperature brake applications.



EBC pads

EBC Greenstuff Road/Sport disc brake pads are designed for sports cars, coupes and sedans used for high performance driving on the road. They are also suitable for sport driving in autocross, Solo II and many “track day” applications. The EBC Greenstuff pads feature a high Kevlar content formulation resulting in ultra high performance pads that are extremely kind to brake rotors.

EBC Greenstuff pads (friction level of 0.46µ) will be more responsive than most standard original brakes (typical friction level of 0.25µ to 0.35µ). Their high resistance to brake fade up to 1000° Fahrenheit make them a superb upgrade for luxury and high performance streetcars used for high speed driving or that encounter repetitive, heavy braking.

As standard brake pads wear, brake dust is released as the friction material carbonizes at temperatures found in everyday braking. EBC Greenstuff brake pads are formulated to run cleaner because they resist carbonizing until over 1000° Fahrenheit, so in normal street driving, dusting is reduced.

Features and Benefits of Greenstuff brake pads

* Upgrade brake performance by up to 30% over OE pads, friction co-efficient of 0.46µ
* Excellent initial bite resulting in instant response, no warm-up needed
* Leading fade resistance on the street, heat stable to a blistering 1000°F
* Extremely low rotor wear due to high Kevlar content
* Low dust formula, great for alloys due to zero carbon content
* Low vibration, smooth operation

The EBC Greenstuff pads have won many awards from United Kingdom magazines. In 1999 they won the UK Autotrade Magazine INNOVATION AWARD for their clean running, high performance features, and were also rated #1 fast road car brakes by UK's largest circulation motorsport magazine, Max Power.

Brake pads are wear items and as such, should be inspected regularly and replaced as necessary. Pads should be replaced when approximately 1/8” of friction material remains on the steel backing plate. Drivers who participate in track days should always take spare pads to the track and may find it desirable to also carry a full vehicle set of EBC Redstuff pads in case they need to upgrade their brakes to provide longer pad life to accommodate higher brake temperatures.