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Old 12-25-2004, 10:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Red or green collant ?

my camry used to have red coolant but i had it changed, it was time, but when i went to the garage i forgot to specify the guy to replace it with red coolant so now i have green coolant

can it damage the seals or anything ?

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Old 12-25-2004, 10:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Red is better. But green is alright, you might have to replace it more frequently now.

Don't mix coolants.
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Old 12-25-2004, 12:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just kept the green because that's what the car came with. However, if it came with red, I would stick with red. And like VVT said, don't mix coolants.
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Old 12-26-2004, 12:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Cool

If red ever touches green (or vice versa) it will turn into a very hard gel that you can do anything but chip away with a chisle.


They should never be mixed. It can stick anywhere in the system (from obvious nooks and crannies in the waterpump, or radiator) to slick surfaces like ruber hoses <eek>)
It is almost impossible to flush out once formed(like I said, chisel is hard to do), and if enough was mixed, if you were to drain and take your radiator out, it would probably weigh 60lbs instead of 15lbs.



If it did not come with red coolant, it should never see Toyota red coolant. It's the worst stuff ever. Half of Toyota's overheating problems rescently are due to red/green mixing and completely clogging parts of the system. The other half is from mis-marketing Toyota did saying it was "life long" coolant, good for 60,000 miles. Nothing cuold be further from the trueth.


Toyota red will also attack iron parts faster than green because of it's rust/corrosion inhibitor package, very bad for any motor with an iron block!
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Old 12-26-2004, 01:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Quote:
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Toyota red will also attack iron parts faster than green because of it's rust/corrosion inhibitor package, very bad for any motor with an iron block!

good info...never knew that....
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If red ever touches green (or vice versa) it will turn into a very hard gel that you can do anything but chip away with a chisle.


They should never be mixed. It can stick anywhere in the system (from obvious nooks and crannies in the waterpump, or radiator) to slick surfaces like ruber hoses <eek>)
It is almost impossible to flush out once formed(like I said, chisel is hard to do), and if enough was mixed, if you were to drain and take your radiator out, it would probably weigh 60lbs instead of 15lbs.



If it did not come with red coolant, it should never see Toyota red coolant. It's the worst stuff ever. Half of Toyota's overheating problems rescently are due to red/green mixing and completely clogging parts of the system. The other half is from mis-marketing Toyota did saying it was "life long" coolant, good for 60,000 miles. Nothing cuold be further from the trueth.


Toyota red will also attack iron parts faster than green because of it's rust/corrosion inhibitor package, very bad for any motor with an iron block!

Holy crap I think that maybe this thread should be in Phi's Ultimate Sticky thread.
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Old 12-26-2004, 01:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Eye8Pussies the problem with ferrite metals... Toyota was claiming the fluid would last 6-years / 60,000 odd miles. When it very well might last that long in a very light duty car. The problem happens when that inhibitor package designed to work with aluminum, copper and tin really does last longer than a normal green fluid. It's just that it doesn't last appreciably longer when used with iron based materials. You get nice rust and corrosion and stuff!



Like I said in the other thread, anyone that doesn't believe me when I preach Toyota red is the worst crap on earth,for non OEM-red cars, should spend $5 at the Toyota dealer buying fluid and $1.50 at wallmart to buy yellow/green american (normal) fluid.

Mix the two and come back after 10 min, a half hour, and the next day. Turns to goo, then get's very hard. Clog city!!!
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Old 12-26-2004, 01:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i remembered my 98 5sfe comes with red coolant.

Is that no good ????
i believe the 5sfe has a cast iron block.
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The cynical side of me says that they developed this coolant as a way to milk money out of you. Isn't it called Dexcool? Have you guys seen the cost of it? And by requiring it in the newer vehicles, it's all about $$$
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm a long time reader of TN, recently became a member, but this is my first post.

This PDF explains the difference between the colors of anitfreeze/coolant:
http://www.universallubes.com/0703-1-AF-Rainbow.pdf?

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The Toyotas are now coming with pink coolant which it compatible with red.

The Toyota coolant is not the same as " Dexcool" And yes I did pay close to $17 for a gallon, Let the flaming begin.
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Not wanting to ever start this ancient argument again because there have been many here. There are a million good arguments.

This is however what I found and believe. Toyota coolants (even when they had a green) contained no silicates. They sell their cars with no silicate coolants. Green has silicates. Red uses phosphates. No mixing, period. Always flush to prevent contamination. Use distilled water. Buck a gallon.

No, I do not believe in any extended life fluids so I change my coolant every other year with my other vehicles. I am running T-Red and watching it close. I run Kawasaki Green in my ZX.
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Old 12-26-2004, 10:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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ok now you scared the shit out of me

but to tell you the truth the coolant in in the overflow tank was more transparent oilish than red

i had the coolant changed to green the 15th of december, 11 days ago
i can't see any problems with that, any sugestions to avoid future problems ?
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Old 12-26-2004, 10:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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after reading the pdf file it says that mixing more than 10% is dangerous

i highly doubt that after draining the coooling system there can still be around 400ml of red coolant
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Ugh, you guys are tards!

GREEN is the same as the RED, toyota just uses a red dye, same stuff as red.

Mix red and green, no problem, it's not gonna turn to gel like Toysrme said.

However, I don't like mixing coolants, just cause I don't like the nasty color it makes.
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