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Old 01-05-2005, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about painting performance headers?

Im looking into purchasing pacesetter headers for my 89 camry, and i found a good deal. The only thing is, they have been painted with chamelion paint and it looks horrible. If i were to get them, i want to know my options of changing the color. Could i sand it down a bit and respray it with high temp heat spray paint in my desired color, like silver? Also, i was wondering if i could polish the header by hand, by using sand paper to sand the paint off and getting down to the metal and polishing it? Would i be messing it up if i polished it, or is it just fine? Im not sure, but i think if i polished it, i would probably scrape off some kind of heat protectant paint or something that was previously put on by pacesseter, and by taking it off i would be screewing the header. Im not quite sure what i can do without messing up the headers, so im asking you guys for your help. thanks
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no one knows if its good or bad to polish headers?
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You could sand the paint off and have them powder coated.

Or you could not worry about the paint color and cover the header with heat wrap.
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If you are going to paint them, the most important part on exhaust/block/heads is that you follow instructions.

ALL high-temp paint MUST be baked on. preferablly immediately after application. Otherwise it is subject to cracking and peeling when heat is applied. (especially on exhaust components)
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what do you mean by "bake" them after application? Could you explain this please?
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All the headers I know commercially available are steel. If you polish them down, they will start to rust real fast.
You can't powdercoat them in traditional sense because heat is the process that melts powder coat to metal and smoothens it out.
You can paint it with header paint or send it in for ceramic coating.
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Bake as in bake the painted object.
Duplicolor high-temp recommends 400F for 1/2 an hour, 350F for 45min, 300F for an hour.

But all high temp paint, and coatings are the same. If they don't get baked when they go on, they normally do crack and peel.
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so if i sand down the headers a bit, then apply dupli-color high temp paint, then i do the baking method, they should be fine? So when baking it, you have to heat it in segments like you posted at different temps?
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You could sand the paint off and have them powder coated.

Or you could not worry about the paint color and cover the header with heat wrap.
just to let u know, the heatwrap might not be a good idea, edelbrock has a warning with their headers that says:
The use of "thermal wrap" or and aftermarket coating process will void the warranty on your headers. Those products can cause excessive heat and moisture buildup resulting in corrosion and early failure of the system.
i know that their not edelbrock headers and your not buying them for the warranty, but there had to be a reason they put that with each set of headers they sell. im not knockin the thermal wrap, but i just really wouldnt recomend it.
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so if i sand down the headers a bit, then apply dupli-color high temp paint, then i do the baking method, they should be fine? So when baking it, you have to heat it in segments like you posted at different temps?
Just have them powerder coated for $30. It is professionally done, easier, and will look much better.
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someone tell me how powdercoat stays on when the headers are red hot? heat wrap them.
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Powder coating will not work.

Have them ceramic coated.

http://www.jet-hot.com

http://www.swaintech.com/header.html
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how much does ceramic coating cost? It didn't say on those sites? Also, where can i locally get the headers ceramic coated?
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that second one had a price list, it said $175-$215 for 6 cylinder headers. thats friggin expsensive
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how much does ceramic coating cost? It didn't say on those sites?
Need some glasses?

Swain Tech: $125 - $165 (4 cyl.)

I think Jet Hot charges around $100 to coat a 4 cyl. header. Call them and they'll give you a quote.

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Also, where can i locally get the headers ceramic coated?
Look in the phone book or ask some local gear heads.
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