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noofa · 02-01-2005, 05:32 AM

hey

I have a pod filter, and now my gen 2 sounds great( well better )but now im worried about the heat!

Should i put vents or a scoop in th bonnet? would this cool the engine bay????

i was thinking mayb a scoop in the center and a vent above the filter. i would also concider running a tube from the grill to the filter to add to the air circulation.

Any ideas or flaming are wanted!

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 06:12 AM

ah a fellow aussie! i have a pod filter on my gen2! my mate does too, they sound real good, and even better with as sports exhaust as well! me and my mate dont have vents or scoops. dont think u really need it, but colder air in the engine bay for the pod would be an advantage. how'd u secure yours? i made myself an airbox out of aluminium (no not foil haha). but i'd prob still get dicked by the cops.

oh and if you manage to get a tube from the grill to the pod please popst how you did it! theres so much in the way! unless you continue it on from the where the current intake tube is, beside ur battery just behind the left parker. i couldnt be bothered investigating that, and am not sure whether it would make much of a difference.

noofa · 02-01-2005, 06:20 AM

at the moment mine is just hanging. I get dicked by the cops every time i go driving, small town and i am targeted (spose i am a P plater) however they never get me to lift the bonnet. guess they think theres just a massive hole somwhere!

yeh its sounds much better, i just think i could get the car running better with a bit of cold air!
the pipeing is just a 'pipedream' at the moment but im sure i will find a way ill do pics and a story on here if you like.

Where did u and your mates get your exauhsts done, what do they sound like and what setup do you have? im realy interested in getting mine done! have you thought about headers?

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 06:37 AM

both myself and my friend have 2" exausts with i muffler and i resonator. (i have a 4" dump pipe tip, he has a square tip, mines looks better

) but unfortunately his is slightly faster coz its manual! but my little auto keeps up very well!
im not sure where you are but we both got ours done at dandy exhausts in dandenong. They sound very good! and very loud i love it! my car always turns heads cause of how it sounds, that combined with the induction sound of the pod! awesome! once again...i love it!
Yes i am planning to get headers and a high flow cat. dandy exhausts quoted me $350 supply/fit. a place in cranbourne quoted me $330 supply/fit and $210 supplied. so i'll prob get em there and get my girlfriends bro (who's a mechanic) to git it and the cat. a place called xr performance (who qouted me $800 for pacemaker headers!) said the extractors make a real difference and increase the performance of our motors significantly. which is good news. i'm currently saving my money to get extractors.
i plan to have these and my car lowered by the end of the year.
at some point in the future perhaps next year im planning to work this motor (ie cams, port polishing) or do the 3sge swap. whichever ends up cheaper. mind you from the quotes i've received the 3sge swap would end up cheaper and more guarantee of extra power.
im sure i could find a way to put a pipe for cold air but i just cant be bothered plus dont have much time at the moment.

im sorry i've waffled on.

noofa · 02-01-2005, 06:48 AM

na mate sounds great

Yeh i will get the whole headers high flow cat and catback done this year, im looking at about 800? right? What brand of header is the best? i have heard one from an MR2 would do the trick? we could proberbly pick one of those up from a wreckers somwhere. I will keep an eye out, if you have any leads please PM me. I am dead keen on the mods avaliable.

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by noofa

na mate sounds great

Yeh i will get the whole headers high flow cat and catback done this year, im looking at about 800? right? What brand of header is the best? i have heard one from an MR2 would do the trick? we could proberbly pick one of those up from a wreckers somwhere. I will keep an eye out, if you have any leads please PM me. I am dead keen on the mods avaliable.

yeah the mr2 exhaust manifold would make sense. i've been told that if i were to get extractors for my motor, they would bolt on to a 3sge if i decided to get in the future.
i'll look into that and keep you posted. actually i'll call a couple of places tomorrow and i'll PM you.

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2005, 06:55 AM

POD filters almost always need some sort of cooling to feel any real difference. Otherwise your just making a HAI!!

If a POD filter is recieving COLD air..then the difference is fantastic, for me anyways.
On a hot day..mine will hesitate and be really flat in its power delivery.
Night time tho...and she hauls ars.

Best thing to do is get the POD out of the engine bay.
Run it down under the front of the bumper, or in the fender.

Alternatly..make a heat box for it, and run piping to it from the outside air. Possibly bonnet vents will work to..and the best way for this to function is to have it "seal" around the heat box. This means that cold air is going into the POD only, THAT would be awesome!

I know the guys a Dandy Exhausts....went on many cruises with them up to Gembrook!

I got my system done at Autofast Muffler Fit, next to Autobarn in Dandy. He did a great job on my custom extractors and a full 2.5" system including hi flow cat, 2 resonators, split join to 2" piping and two mufflers!

Where bouts u from?

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 06:59 AM

your pod out of the engine bay jetspeed? howd you get it there. yeah my aluminium box is by no means heat proof. its quite dodgy actually. what material would you recommend for this heat box?

noofa · 02-01-2005, 07:01 AM

Ultima: Thanks mate that sounds great!

JetSpeed: i was thinking a pipe(from the outside) to the box around the pod and a vent above it. do you think i could do this with high quality black poly pipe? sounds bodgey but it may make twists and turns easier? or even just somthing the size of a down pipe sealing to the vent pushing air straight into the pod?

I dont realy know much about this but im just throwing ideas around???

BTW im near newcastle NSW

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 07:05 AM

yeah i'd prob do that minus the vent. i'd just try to run one massive pipe or a couple of smaller ones to the pod/box.

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2005, 07:08 AM

My POD is under the bonnet...hence why at night..she runs really well.
I'd like to position it behind my front bar..but cops, you know....
It would be pretty simple...just a length of flexible 3" pipe will do, running from the AFM to the location..perhaps cable tied along the way to hold it in place..and then the POD fitted to the end of it.

I suppose as the cheapest thing...aluminium would be ok. Would take the 'edge' of the heat..however metal radiates heat alot..so i may not be that effective without some sort of heat proof cladding. Whateva you choose, i would say to put heat deflecting panels or cladding or something to line the box. That way...you minimize the radiant heat to the POD.

If you can make the heat proof box 'seal' up against the bonnet with rubber and have that vent positioned ova it...they would be perfect. And for extra measure, you could add that pipe from the front to the box. Any flexible material will do..aslong as it doesnt radiate too much heat..or else the air will heat up in the pipe before it gets to the filter!

noofa · 02-01-2005, 07:08 AM

if you had a flow of air it may be even more effective -

Outside car - pipe - Custom pod airbox - pipe - outside car

this may also help to cool the box and preven radiation.

However i have no ideas on the material or any type of insulation for the box

100% agreed with jetspeed

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 07:16 AM

those are really good tips jetspeed! i'll look into that heat proof lining.
i assumed the same about "flow" of air through the piping would be best, but to optimise this tyhe pipe would preferably be straightish and not vertical???? or wouldnt it make a difference?
any ideas on insulating material?
or i could just remove that damn parker!

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2005, 07:26 AM

Realistly i doubt it would make too much difference if it had a few bends here and there..but i really don't know.

1. The air will have to 'turn' in the pipe and will hit the edge of the pipe more...thus causing friction...thus heat.

however..

2. The turns may 'slow' the air speed down..which may be good or bad. Too much 'ram' effect can cause a loss of lower end torque and a gain of high rpm hp.

The parker idea is ok..if your on the drag stip..but for vic roads....no way!! hahaha
You can get heat proof panels that you can simply cut and stick on as you please. The one i saw was like the normal material you see under carpets..but it had that silver shiny stuff on it.

Remember that this may also cause you to loose a bit of induction sound becuase of all the insulation etc. Although if you had the bonnet vent...then i'd say it would be pretty awesome!! and VERY loud.

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 07:34 AM

yeah i saw that stuff at clark rubber actually! well, i kinda have mesh grills on my dodgy air box-at the time i was making it i thought well, it may be hot air, but the more air the better. prob a stupid idea oh well. the sheet only cost 11 bucks so i can always make another one with insulation.
so either way im gona get some hot air in. unless i put a cold air pipe to each of these grills.