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Ultima · 02-01-2005, 06:45 AM

i am so inexperienced when it comes to turbos. i only have limited knowledge. if i were to turbo my 3sfe would it be possible to use the manifold from the 3sgte? or are they vastly different? hence would i need a custom manifold fabricated?

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2005, 07:02 AM

I don't actually know this..but..ill take a guess and say no it won't.
Considering the G head is quite different to the F head.

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 07:09 AM

Thats not what i want to hear! kidding kidding. i just though maybe you could coz i've been told that the extractors for a 3sfe would fit onto a 3sge. so i was assuming that a turbo manifold would do the same. as i said, im inexperienced with turbos. knowing my luck your guess is prob right.

noofa · 02-01-2005, 07:13 AM

have you thought about just swaping in a 3sgte or is there a prob with doing that?

Ultima · 02-01-2005, 07:18 AM

yeah but there is a looooooooot of work involved which i have not the money nor the experience for. that would be awesome though. perhaps if i win tattslotto!

terrastrife · 02-01-2005, 09:18 AM

engien swap woulfd be easier then making a turbo 3sfe... theres more then just pipes and manifold.

edit: yorue aussie, we dont have a problem getting 3sgte's like the US does, so just get one head to a japanese performance store and get them to shoehorn it in.

88 LE · 02-01-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultima

if i were to turbo my 3sfe would it be possible to use the manifold from the 3sgte?

Yes, it bolts right on.

The bolt pattern is the same except the 3S-GTE has an extra bolt on the manifold.

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Originally Posted by JetspeedCamry

I don't actually know this..but..ill take a guess and say no it won't.
Considering the G head is quite different to the F head.

The heads are different, but that has nothing to do with the turbo manifold bolting on or not.

A 3S-GTE turbo manifold will bolt onto a 3S-FE, 5S-FE, and 3S-GE.

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2005, 08:43 PM

Ok..thanx 88LE.
I just thought that because of the difference in head design, they may have changed the exhaust pattern etc. Anyways!

Ultima · 02-02-2005, 06:33 AM

yeah i no i can get a 3sgte shoehorned in but i need the dosh. i was just wondering anyway. thanx for bothering with this thread guys!

white90dx · 02-02-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by terrastrife

engien swap woulfd be easier then making a turbo 3sfe... theres more then just pipes and manifold.

Totally not true.

You have to do more mechanical work, a TON more wiring work AND it costs more to do an engine swap. The upside is you get a reliable 200+hp motor.

-Charlie

henry bui · 02-03-2005, 04:44 AM

umm. i was sure in the gen2 camrys the 3sgte engine was a bolt in? is it not? the difference would be that the wiring would be different thats about it. its not hard to wire if you know how to read schematics and have wiring diagrams from both cars.

88 LE · 02-03-2005, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by henry bui

umm. i was sure in the gen2 camrys the 3sgte engine was a bolt in? is it not?

Only on a SV21 (gen 2 with 3S-FE).

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the difference would be that the wiring would be different thats about it. its not hard to wire if you know how to read schematics and have wiring diagrams from both cars.

Don't forget about the tranny. 3S-GTEs were never mated with a auto tranny, except for a Caldina (ST-215). Good luck finding a Caldina clip though, even if you do its going to be expensive.

IMO the wiring would be the most difficult part. Not everyone understands electrical stuff or can read schematics.

white90dx · 02-03-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by henry bui

umm. i was sure in the gen2 camrys the 3sgte engine was a bolt in? is it not? the difference would be that the wiring would be different thats about it. its not hard to wire if you know how to read schematics and have wiring diagrams from both cars.

Until you have completed a motor swap (including the wiring), you probably shouldn't be telling people how easy a motor swap is... I haven't done a 3s-gte in my Camry (though I might someday), but I have at least helped out friends who have done swaps on their subarus (where the motors are also 'simple' bolt-ins)

-Charlie

henry bui · 02-05-2005, 01:48 AM

um. i have done plenty of engine swaps. i am very familiar with auto mechanics. but im speaking from past board members that have actually done the 3sgte swaps. im sorry but i havent been on these boards much often. but i have been on these boards eversince when camryman.org was the only place to go. trust me. theres been qquite a few gen2s that have done it, and they said it was a straight forward process.

and for the tranny, you can always swap to a manual. its very simple. i have also done that in my gen3 to the e153 from a 94 mr2. all i did was swap the casing with a solara casing so i didnt have to reposition the shifter. if you really want to do it, email me and ill give you more details on how to do an auto to manual swap.