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Old 02-01-2005, 08:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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is this a fair price?...need you opinion

i went to my mechanic today to get an estimation for both timing belt change and a full tune up...

R&R Timing Belt - $69.37
Water Pump- $89.42
Idler Kit-$179.27
NGK Spark Plug Wires-$97.77
NGK Laser Platinum Plugs-$54.00
PCV Valve-$3.99
Fuel Filter-$19.59
Coolant-$9.99

4Cam Seals-$67.12 (16.78 each)
Crank Seal-$9.59

Labor-$564.00
Total With Tax-$1267.32

SO IS THIS A FAIR PRICE?

thanks for your opinion..

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yea those prices dont seem too bad, you might be able to get them to take a few bucks off tho..btw how long has it been since your last tune-up of all these parts? first time?

if it hasnt been too long then some of these parts could wait to be changed and in-turn you would save some money...like that fuel filter or the timming belt.....but i dont know how long it's been since yout car has had a full tun-up, those are your choices tho!
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$600.11 total parts cost. Their labor charge is where it needs to be.


Forget buying seals, those are WAAAAAY overpriced. Get on Ebay and buy the 3vz-fe gasket set and have the replace stuff as they go. Maybe give them an extra $50 to take the upper intake off so they can replace all of those gaskets, and the valve cover seals too.

Hell... if they go that far, make it an extra $150 laybor and ask them if they'll use the gasket set to change the head gaskets!
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i thought NGK plug wires are $60 bucks ? yea seals are overprices like crazy.

I say just buy the parts on your own and give it to him. Maybe you can cut off..$150 bucks maybe.
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I was told to always use a TOYOTA timing belt, because some of the aftermarket ones are crappy, and that toyota ones are the best for toyota's.
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One thing I love about Belize is that labour is not that expensive at all especially if you know the mechanic well. That price here would be ridiculous.
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yea those prices dont seem too bad, you might be able to get them to take a few bucks off tho..btw how long has it been since your last tune-up of all these parts? first time?


i have had the car for 3years now...since i was in my sophomore year in high school...never had a tune up on the car or timing belt changed at all...so basically this is all first time for my car...
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I was told to always use a TOYOTA timing belt, because some of the aftermarket ones are crappy, and that toyota ones are the best for toyota's.

i'm right there with you on the toyota timing belt but other stuff i was refering too can be had at dealership that might be cheaper then what you tech is going to charge. remember that techs normall charge you 150% of what they paid for in the parts.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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that seems like an awful lot in plugs and plug wires. ($160 job for plugs and wires?!)
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People....OEM plug wires for a 3vz-fe WILL NOT be sold under $100 even with a hook-up. (your ass better BE the parts manager, not KNOW him)

He also has six sparkplugs... Stop using ghetto math for only buying multiples of 4 parts LoL!
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^ 1 better NGK for 81$ :P

http://www.ngk.com/more_info.asp?AAIA=1273249&pid=2922

A little more then i thought, at first i thought it was a four banger thats why i said 60 for a set. Still cheaper from NGK

You plugs are a little cheaper as well not too muc cheaper. I didn;t find laser plat. but the normal Plats are 6.95
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Old 02-02-2005, 06:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That's good. I was charged $500 for labor, they had to open up the whole engine and tore it apart to tell me which parts I needed.
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I don't know, 6cyl regardless. I just changed my brother's 525i's plugs (he actually had such bad plugs a couple cylinders weren't firing). We paid $35 for all 6 plugs and anti-seize grease for the threads. I also got him Bosch Platinum +4's since it's a euro. Call me Crazy, but $60 a plug seems pretty out there (even after doing some checking around for 3vz plugs). Iridiums I could understand...
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^ 1 better NGK for 81$ :P

http://www.ngk.com/more_info.asp?AAIA=1273249&pid=2922

A little more then i thought, at first i thought it was a four banger thats why i said 60 for a set. Still cheaper from NGK

You plugs are a little cheaper as well not too muc cheaper. I didn;t find laser plat. but the normal Plats are 6.95

cables and spark plugs
http://www.ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1273328
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those prices seem a little high.
prices should be around....

timing belt - 40
Water Pump- 75
-Gasket - 3
ADD: Thermostat - 15
Idler Kit- all you need is belt tensioner
-Belt Tensioner - 50
NGK Spark Plug Wires (model TE42)- 82 - http://www.ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1273340
NGK Laser Platinum Plugs- 42 (7 each)
PCV Valve- 3
Fuel Filter- 15
Coolant- 10

ADD: Valve Cover Gasket - 10 (5 each)
4Cam Seals- 52 (13 each)
Crank Seal- 6

TOTAL = 403

All prices are from autozone or advance auto except the plug wires which the page is linked. Got it from the page zenerman linked (but his was for 5sfe, wrong). Where multiple brands were listed for the price, i did sort of an average.

I'd suggest going to a different mechanic. If there is ever something i dont feel like doing myself, ill go to my local computer tune and lube. they do just about anything and they are fair and reasonable. Ask around town and see where your friends go and how they are treated. Thats usually the best way to find a fair place.
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