Master cylinder: metric vs. standard - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

Rekord · 02-05-2005, 01:46 AM

For a 99 Camry 5sfe master cylinder had tappered ports. Start as M10x1.00 mm and then the thread is smaller. A 3/8x24 will go all the way though.

anuthaCamry · 02-05-2005, 02:14 AM

THEY WANNA F--- YOU AT THAT DEALERSHIP. TAKE YOUR BUSINESS ELSEWHERE.

read my post about a chord in my master cylinder....

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t62714.html

return it if it doesn't fit, get one that does. bleed the master cylinder before attaching the brake lines to it. then bleed the system

Rekord · 02-14-2005, 02:03 PM

New info: see first post.

Hajoca · 02-15-2005, 11:20 AM

Are these refurbished units?

I mean, new seals, cleaned and honed cylinder with new pistons etc.
or brand new units??

Rekord · 02-15-2005, 11:39 AM

NewRaybestos = brand new unit

United (sold at Napa, has the same code as Raybestos) = brand new unit

Pepboys, remanufactured unit (only remanufactured they had in stock), the rest have to be ordered).

See first post. Raybestos is the cheapest 115$ and had the reservoir (Pepboys doesn't) and Napa part is 130$.

Hajoca · 02-15-2005, 03:28 PM

I feel your frustration

My cavalier had cheap parts, but because mine was produced during body style/equipment change, I get parts listed in catalouges that do not fit, some were of the older cavalier style, and others were for the newer one.

I asked if it was refurb, because I do not think that you would have fit problems with a casting that just recently came out of another 97-99 camry.

88 LE · 02-15-2005, 07:34 PM

A adapter would fix your problems.

However I don't know if a 3/8"-24 to M10x1 adapter exists or not. Something for you to check out.

Rekord · 02-16-2005, 03:04 PM

I ordered today from a link found on this forum. It is a Toyota dealer in Washington state. With shipping is supposed to be about 160$ (which still is less than 230+tax that local dealer - in SoCal wanted).
Toyota code part number is supposed to be 4720-133110 (Camry 97-01 w/o ABS, w/o TC, 97-99 4 cyl. w/o ABS, Avalon 95-96 w/o ABS).
When I get the part I will post the outcome..

Mike Gerber · 02-16-2005, 05:54 PM

Have you considered just getting a rebuild kit for the master and rebuilding it yourself. It's usually just the seals inside that go bad and you get new seals and instructions in the kit. It's not real hard to do yourself, will save you quite a bit of money and you won't have to deal with the wrong thread pitch in the new master; you will have the original master and brake line still intack. I know you have already ordered a new master cylinder, but perhpas you can locate a rebuilding kit in the meantime and return the master you ordered. Your car would also be up and running more quickly.

Good luck with the problem.

Mike

Rekord · 02-17-2005, 01:02 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Mike! I did that (changing the seals) for an Opel Omega (think Cadillac Catera but 20 years earlier). When I looked for rebuilding kit I really couldn't find something that I was sure to fit. There are not too many to begin with and among those I was not really sure. So I thought it is better to go with a new cylinder...just to run in another kind of problems..
Of well still waiting for the new cylinder to arrive.

Rekord · 02-17-2005, 03:58 PM

The rebuilt kit code number is 04493-07010 (Toyota Camry 99 w/o ABS) and is available from http://www.1sttoyotaparts.com (Toyota dealer) for 39.82$.
But I couldn't cancel my order (already shipped)...

Mike Gerber · 02-17-2005, 04:36 PM

Sorry I didn't see your post sooner. It might have saved you a few dollars. Well, at least you have the security of knowing you have a brand new Toyota part on the car. In the future, I would recommend bleeding all the brake lines with fresh brake fluid every 2 - 3 years or 30,000 as preventive maintainence. This should help the new master and the brake calipers and wheel cylinders last much longer.

Mike

Rekord · 02-18-2005, 01:11 PM

Thanks!

I have now 80,000 miles on my car. And for bleeding I bought a master cylinder bleeder kit (from www.arizonatools.com) and a bleeder pump (Motive products, got it from www.apexperformance.net). I will see how they work after I install the cylinder. It is supposed to make it easier and faster (http://www.motiveproducts.com/02bleeders.html) so I was thinking to give it a try.

Rekord · 02-24-2005, 06:32 PM

The master cylinder has tappered ports, and the new part fit without problems. Still have to bleed the system tomorrow and for a strange reason the check engine is on (?). I did press a lot of times the brake pedal bleeding the master cylinder (I used adaptors for the ports 3/8x24 thread) with clear plastic tubes that went back in the cylinder. Still has some air though (after like an hour of pumping the brake pedal). Tomorrow I plan to bleed the whole system to get rid of the air.