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Ok I have heard about a cuple of ECU upgrades for my V6 92 but Im not sure now that I want one which one to get, so I wanted to list the cuple I know of and see which ya'll think is best...please add your 2 cents if you allready have one of these!!!
1. PYTHON/VENOM ECU V6 w/MT $328.28 CORE:$101.01 Ea. (OFF NOPI.com)
2. JET ECU upgrade
3.G-FOrce ECU Upgrade(Im not sure if they are still in bussiness or if there site has moved?)
Which one of these if any do ya'll recommend! I like the venom one from nopi but dont know a single person with one or ever even heard of them for that matter? THanks guys! :-? :-?
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Whats the purpose of upgrading your ECU ? What mods are done to your engine?
The JET upgrade has been proven as garbage, the G-force i cant speak for, and im not sure about the Venom ECU but i assume its for nitrous users so it probably has some modified fuel maps.
Unless you're going forced induction, in which case id recommend a standalone ECU like Haltec, Motec, Apexi Power FC, etc... I wouldnt recommend any of the ECU "upgrades" youve mentioned. If your staying N/A or doing mild forced induction, i suggest some air/fuel piggy-backs like the HKS S-AFR and maybe some fuel system upgrades.
yeah Im going with a vortec or a turbo not sure yet, but I tohught that ecu's improve your performance weather your going for NA or not? What performance mods do you suggest then, I have a new ignition system(the works(msd)), flowmaster exhaust with high flow cat) , CAI, I was thinking about headers but there are none for my car and then I was thinking about cams off of DOA website, and or boreing it out? What you think?
BTW: Dose that Ultimate Racing Downpipe help at all with performance? Also what about those projectors how much did it cost you to build those? What performance mods do you suggest and do you know a lot about the 3vz-fe engine because I need someone with more knoledge about it to help me and some friends out with a vortec and or turbo kit for it? I am an engineer and have mad CADkey skills to draw it up and I have a all around badass when it comes to cars to help out with fabricating stuff, and sean and jon are the pimps who are also fighting for the 3vz cause. Have you looke dat the DOA site, what do you think about that?
man i dont know if the doa stuff will work- its a different head type.
the 3vze has the same block but different head. this could possibly be very bad, because the pistons might be different as well. the guy at DOA has never worked with a 3vz-Fe so i wouldnt expect him to know the difference
as for ECU, im probably going to go with the Techtom one from E.L... until i can afford it though i would only boost no more than 5 psi- i bet the stock ecu can handle that (one would hope so )
Ok so the Accel DFI or Electromotive TEC-II or TEC-III will increase performance even though I dont have forced induction...and then will work once I get forced induction? BTW what part of performance will it increase? I heard some take off the rev and speed limiter, and increase hp, is this true. Where can I find these online? Ok guys if these answers are all no s then ya'll need to tell me what I need next for performance...im lost, there has got to be more performance wise...what about boreing it out and getting new pistons and ect., how much should I bore it out and what type of performance would i be looking at with that? It says on toysport that boring is ok with 3vz-fe's?
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yeah Im going with a vortec or a turbo not sure yet, but I tohught that ecu's improve your performance weather your going for NA or not?
Actually the stock ECU is fine for most N/A mods such as intake, headers, y-pipe, exhaust... and a piggyback fuel computer might yield some small gains but a standalone ECU is overkill unless you do some serious engine mods.
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What performance mods do you suggest then, I have a new ignition system(the works(msd)), flowmaster exhaust with high flow cat) , CAI, I was thinking about headers but there are none for my car and then I was thinking about cams off of DOA website, and or boreing it out? What you think?
those are all good mods, im sure some bottom end work will do good aswell such as some stronger rods, valvetrain, maybe a mild overbore for some extra power. Highter compression pistons if you wanna stay NA or lower compression pistons if you wanna go boost later on.
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BTW: Dose that Ultimate Racing Downpipe help at all with performance?
yes but i have yet to dyno it until i fix my check-engine light.
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Also what about those projectors how much did it cost you to build those?
Contact Tony about those: HTRacing@hotmail.com
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What performance mods do you suggest and do you know a lot about the 3vz-fe engine because I need someone with more knoledge about it to help me and some friends out with a vortec and or turbo kit for it? I am an engineer and have mad CADkey skills to draw it up and I have a all around badass when it comes to cars to help out with fabricating stuff, and sean and jon are the pimps who are also fighting for the 3vz cause. Have you looke dat the DOA site, what do you think about that?
If you got $$, then id recommend doing a custom turbo kit with a T3/T4 turbo, custom manifold on the front bank, custom y-pipe that can mate with the wastegate, a good external wastegate, front mount intercooler, blowoff valve, custom lines and fittings, probably a battery relocation kit, and some good engine management stuff like warning gauges (ie. greddy), a turbo timer, boost controller, and fuel computer.
it would be possible to twin turbo the engine too, but would that be waay to unreliable? 1 turbo per 3 cyl sounds good enuf to me also with a single turbo, is it going to put more strain on the 3 cyl on that one bank since it now has to spin a turbine? i dont know everything about turbo-ing an engine so help would be greatly appreciated.
all this time ive wanted a supercharger, its just i dont know where it would go with the crankshaft being where it is! it seems to me that a turbo would fit nicely because of where the topmost exhaust bank is- is it true that turbos are less reliable than s/c's?
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it would be possible to twin turbo the engine too, but would that be waay to unreliable? 1 turbo per 3 cyl sounds good enuf to me also with a single turbo, is it going to put more strain on the 3 cyl on that one bank since it now has to spin a turbine? i dont know everything about turbo-ing an engine so help would be greatly appreciated.
all this time ive wanted a supercharger, its just i dont know where it would go with the crankshaft being where it is! it seems to me that a turbo would fit nicely because of where the topmost exhaust bank is- is it true that turbos are less reliable than s/c's?
jon
twin turbo is another artform in itself. lets crawl before we walk. turbo's are more efficient than superchargers because they are powered by exhaust gases which is like recycling power. superchargers are run off the engine power and therefore take some horsepower away to create some. so you can see turbos are more efficient, and also create a template to do some very serious tuning once you start putting more $$ into it. superchargers tend to have less flexibility in terms of tuning afterwards besides the usual pulleys and sometimes engine management.
a single turbo is NOT gonna put more stress on one bank because its just getting its power from the exhaust gases of that bank and is feeding the compressed air back into the throttle body which distributes the boost evenly to all cylinders.
custom turbo kit with a T3/T4 turbo, custom manifold on the front bank, custom y-pipe that can mate with the wastegate, a good external wastegate, front mount intercooler, blowoff valve, custom lines and fittings, probably a battery relocation kit, and some good engine management stuff like warning gauges (ie. greddy), a turbo timer, boost controller, and fuel computer.
OK so should i jsut goto a shop to figure this stuff out or look online about each indivivdual item and research em. BEcause I will and then how do I determine placing of items...i guess once iget good enough and know enoguh about it you can sort of fgure out where everything goes...well ok Im gonna get on a parts list with prices and ill work my way up...jon feel free to research too! Illtalk to ya in a bit!
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OK so should i jsut goto a shop to figure this stuff out or look online about each indivivdual item and research em. BEcause I will and then how do I determine placing of items...i guess once iget good enough and know enoguh about it you can sort of fgure out where everything goes...well ok Im gonna get on a parts list with prices and ill work my way up...jon feel free to research too! Illtalk to ya in a bit!
ok, well no one has publicly turbo'd a V6 camry so you'd be the first. I dont suggest you let any shop do this, but rather a shop with experience in CUSTOM turbos. they will need to know their shit or else you'll be left with a blow motor :
as for which brand parts to get, that depends on your budget but if you want me to run my mouth off naming parts, here you go:
-Tial wastegate
-Garrett or Turbonetics T3/T4 hybrid turbo
-Spearco air-to-air intercooler
-HKS Super-sequential Blow-off valve
-RC Engineering 400cc injectors
-Cusco or Supra TT fuel pump
-Earls stainless steels braided lines for oil lines, etc.
-TEC-II Standalone ECU (you need to find someone to tune it)
-HKS EVC boost controller
-Blitz FATT turbo timer
-Greddy EGT gauge w/ warning
-Greddy Boost gauge w/ warning
-Greddy Oil pressure gauge w/warning
-a good 3" turbo muffler (ie. Apexi Turbo N1)
that list would definitely put you in good standing with the Lord
cool ill take a look at those and there pricing and get back to you with questions and ideas...thanks again you've been nothing but helpfull...I will be the first..... :cry: (tears of joy)that would be great!
Ok so the Accel DFI or Electromotive TEC-II or TEC-III will increase performance even though I dont have forced induction...and then will work once I get forced induction?
Their standalone computers that replace the stock one.
The major thing that sets them apart from the stock computer is that their fully programmable.
The downside to them is the price. My buddie bought one a few months ago. Accel DFI (Gen 7 DFI), wideband 02, distributor, and crank trigger. About $3200 and the computer itself is $1450.
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