manual conversion

[Ultima]

hey guys! i want to convert my car to manual, but i want to know if there is a gearbox from another toyota which has better gear ratios than the S53 found in gen2 camrys that will work? perhaps a celica 5 speed?

[jspec_racing]

i have the same question for my g4 camry. where can i find one? and how much does it cost?

[atobe]

the e153 will work... i think it's from a celica mr2 and solara... but the mr2 one won't work cause the shift link is on the other side

[warlock]

have you guys done a seach?this has been asked many times before

[noofa]

yeh five speed celica tranny will fit, just check the mounts and shit first

[Wibbit]

talk to jetspeed camry. Hes doing it. E153 from my car should do it. good luck

[jspec_racing]

the e153 tranny will fit any camry? or is it just for a certain generation? i apologize for my ignorance to the info if i'm misinterpreting it.

[zoni]

lately, there are too many people on TN now who think the e153 is plug and play with 4 cylinder engines... this is NOT true. to clear it up...

for gen 2 camry 4cyl:
use the s53 from the 3sfe manual
-stock everything fits
-get manual tranny passenger side inner axle
if you use the e153 from 92+ camry v6, you will need
-gen2 v6 hubs/steering knuckles
-gen 2 v6 brakes, calipers and discs
-gen 2 v6 drivers axle
-mr2 or alltrac 3sgte passenger side inner axle
-gen 2 camry v6 passenger side outer axle
-3sfe flywheel
-3sfe clutch pressure plate
-3sgte, yes 3sgte clutch disc & bearing

for gen 4 camry 4 cyl:
use s54 from 92+ 5sfe standard
-stock everything fits.
-get manual tranny passenger side inner axle
if you use the e153 from 92+ camry v6, you will need
-gen4 v6 hubs/steering knuckles
-gen4 v6 brakes, calipers and discs
-gen4 v6 drivers axle
-mr2 or alltrac 3sgte passenger side inner axle
-gen3, yes gen3 camry v6 passenger side outer axle
-5sfe flywheel
-5sfe clutch pressure plate
-3sgte, yes 3sgte clutch disc & bearing

with either gen you will need:
-the shifter assembly/base from 4 cyl or v6 manual same gen as your car
-shifter cables from 4 cyl or v6 manual same gen as your car
-clutch pedal from 4 cyl or v6 manual same gen as your car
-clutch master cylinder from 4 cyl or v6 manual same gen as your car
-clutch slave cylinder - same as whichever tranny you use.
-clutch hydroulic lines, make your own with braided SS lines or solid metal clutch/brake line and small tubing bender, or order the OEM parts from the toyota dealer for the same gen as your car and according to the engine - tranny does not matter in this case.
-you may or may not choose to change to the manual ECU, it doesnt matter, but if you dont get the manual ECU, you will see engine codes for shift solenoid malfunction (because there are no shift solenoids in a manual tranny)

hope this helps everyone. please do not spread invalid information about what fits in what car to other people. ONLY POST IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE WHAT WORKS!

[fredk]

Hey zoni, what are the differences in the s53 and s54?

[JetspeedCamry]

Originally Posted by zoni

lately, there are too many people on TN now who think the e153 is plug and play with 4 cylinder engines... this is NOT true. to clear it up...

for gen 2 camry 4cyl:
use the s53 from the 3sfe manual
-stock everything fits
-get manual tranny passenger side inner axle
if you use the e153 from 92+ camry v6, you will need
-gen2 v6 hubs/steering knuckles
-gen 2 v6 brakes, calipers and discs
-gen 2 v6 drivers axle
-mr2 or alltrac 3sgte passenger side inner axle
-gen 2 camry v6 passenger side outer axle
-3sfe flywheel
-3sfe clutch pressure plate
-3sgte, yes 3sgte clutch disc & bearing

for gen 4 camry 4 cyl:
use s54 from 92+ 5sfe standard
-stock everything fits.
-get manual tranny passenger side inner axle
if you use the e153 from 92+ camry v6, you will need
-gen4 v6 hubs/steering knuckles
-gen4 v6 brakes, calipers and discs
-gen4 v6 drivers axle
-mr2 or alltrac 3sgte passenger side inner axle
-gen3, yes gen3 camry v6 passenger side outer axle
-5sfe flywheel
-5sfe clutch pressure plate
-3sgte, yes 3sgte clutch disc & bearing

with either gen you will need:
-the shifter assembly/base from 4 cyl or v6 manual same gen as your car
-shifter cables from 4 cyl or v6 manual same gen as your car
-clutch pedal from 4 cyl or v6 manual same gen as your car
-clutch master cylinder from 4 cyl or v6 manual same gen as your car
-clutch slave cylinder - same as whichever tranny you use.
-clutch hydroulic lines, make your own with braided SS lines or solid metal clutch/brake line and small tubing bender, or order the OEM parts from the toyota dealer for the same gen as your car and according to the engine - tranny does not matter in this case.
-you may or may not choose to change to the manual ECU, it doesnt matter, but if you dont get the manual ECU, you will see engine codes for shift solenoid malfunction (because there are no shift solenoids in a manual tranny)

hope this helps everyone. please do not spread invalid information about what fits in what car to other people. ONLY POST IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE WHAT WORKS!

Finally someone who clears that up....people don't realise that the E153 is a V6 box...and i think the only 4cyl it's mated to is the MR2 3S "GTE".... of course with reversed linkage...

[Talisman]

Well I already replied to your PM but just use the old 3sge tranny from the late 80's Celica GTS. Direct bolt up and stronger. I have it in my car.

[Ultima]

yeah got your PM. thanks heaps guys!

[zoni]

always try searching... i found this through a yahoo search, and it was from TN.

Originally Posted by lcarocha, from a thread in december of 04

Could be, I'm not sure but FWIW the 5th Gen Celica here came with the 2nd Gen 3S-GE and we got the S52 as apposed to the S53 in the NADM Celica and both gearboxes have different ratios, the S52 are a lot longer than the S53 in order to take full advantage of the higher HP and Torque so I'm guessing that there would also be a difference between the both boxes.
But really, I'm no expert on MR2 just Celicas but since they share the same engine I'm guessing that the box should also change just like in the Celica.

http://www.vibratesoftware.com/html_...ons.htm#6sptrn
find 97-2005 tranny gear ration here.