Seriously...what do u think?

[4DoorsofFury]

ok i wanna hear some logic. ok i could stick with the 5sfe and modify it to beyond beyond belief, or should i really spend all that extra money and time getting a 3s-gte swap. obviously the two things im having trouble distinguishing is the balance between power and money. what do you guys think is smarter? --im shooting for around 11-14 seconds--

[Razo-E]

the 5s-fe is 2.2L, the 3s-gte is 2.0L...so, if you want TORQUE, i say go for the 5s-fe, same if you want displacement...but the 3s-gte would make more power...so, it's up to personal taste...and power is not the only thing that'll get you into the 11's and 12's...you also need to save weight...plus MONEY...

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by 4DoorsofFury

ok i wanna hear some logic. ok i could stick with the 5sfe and modify it to beyond beyond belief, or should i really spend all that extra money and time getting a 3s-gte swap. obviously the two things im having trouble distinguishing is the balance between power and money. what do you guys think is smarter? --im shooting for around 11-14 seconds--

Well, theres the 5S-GTE, which uses the 5S-FE short block and a 3S-GTE head. But only certain early Camry 5S-FE blocks bolt up to the 3S-GTE head. This is the next step( above the 3S-GTE) in evolution; in the Camry chain of engine swaps...

As for your 11second goals... LOL!!! good luck, And I hope you have deeper pockets than me... I'm have major problems looking for the cash to pay for my mods...

[SCEPTER300RR]

wraith:

only earlier 5sfe works for the 3sgte head?? which ones?? gen3 mk1?? or earlier than that the celica??

thnx

humpty

[smokey8890]

Originally Posted by 4DoorsofFury

ok i wanna hear some logic. ok i could stick with the 5sfe and modify it to beyond beyond belief, or should i really spend all that extra money and time getting a 3s-gte swap. obviously the two things im having trouble distinguishing is the balance between power and money. what do you guys think is smarter? --im shooting for around 11-14 seconds--

i don't think a simple engine swap will help you that much. but hay i could be wrong. after watching "INITAL D" i beleive is not what you drive is how you drive.

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by smokey8890

i don't think a simple engine swap will help you that much. but hay i could be wrong. after watching "INITAL D" i beleive is not what you drive is how you drive.

an engine swap will help out ... Because it will open up alot more aftermarket support for you... I.e. headers, turbo upgrade, pistons, and rods...

The F head does show promise, it has its potential. It can and will make power, but this will require alots of tunning. All you have to remember the F head works on heat. The more heat you can create when you burn the fuel the better. Its just the way the head was designed. I can speak for the 5S-FE but cannot vouche for the rest of the F head family.

Horsepower , I mean real horsepower doesnt show up till you start tweaking your ignition and your fuel maps. The G head is made for performance and was made for racing purpose. It has awesome flow charateristics in stock form. Plus, you actually get the dohc not scissor drive one.

Like I said an engine swap would do you good. It will instantly lower your quarter mile time from 18 seconds to low15's - high16's, depending on the driver. If you put that in a second per dollar ratio. I think thats pretty good. I mean the swap cost me $5,200.00 US Dollars. A TRD Supercharger cost $3,000+ not including installation. The Camry V6 runs 15.9 stock with a good driver and with the s/c it runs 15.0 to 14.9 ... Thats a second for every $3000 dollars ratio... Doesnt sound too good. So, if you really weight the bang for the buck ratio into the equation , the engine swap is a great deal... Is one of the best way of making your Camry a competitor on the streets.

[SCEPTER300RR]

ok way way way too many copy cats out there.. basing it on a cartoon?? everyone knows even not watching that its based on driver not the car but then again it took a cartoon to let u realize that.. the person is asking about engine swap not how to drive..

a 3sgte engine is quite good.. the increase in hp alone from stock 125-130hp (5sfe) to 200+hp ( and aftermarket support) (3sgte) i mean come on even if u cant drive that sure helps a lot... the moves u see on the cartoon u may never ever do on a track... keep watching ur cartoon cos maybe u might learn how to drive based on it... i mean i have seen an 86 beat a viper on the track, but then the viper had a rookie firstmer driver and the 86 had a seasoned professional who knew how to drive and heres the hard part it took the 86 about 5 laps to beat the viper if the race was less than 5 laps the 86 would've lost anyways.. off the line u already lost on hp.... and it took u that long to beat a car... hp matters boy .... maybe u didnt take it in science class or u never went to one...

i just hate it when ppl compare the cartoon to real life driving i love the cartoon too but it took a cartoon to convince ur butt how to drive??? how pathetic

my $0.02

[smokey8890]

Originally Posted by CAMRY300RR

ok way way way too many copy cats out there.. basing it on a cartoon?? everyone knows even not watching that its based on driver not the car but then again it took a cartoon to let u realize that.. the person is asking about engine swap not how to drive..

a 3sgte engine is quite good.. the increase in hp alone from stock 125-130hp (5sfe) to 200+hp ( and aftermarket support) (3sgte) i mean come on even if u cant drive that sure helps a lot... the moves u see on the cartoon u may never ever do on a track... keep watching ur cartoon cos maybe u might learn how to drive based on it... i mean i have seen an 86 beat a viper on the track, but then the viper had a rookie firstmer driver and the 86 had a seasoned professional who knew how to drive and heres the hard part it took the 86 about 5 laps to beat the viper if the race was less than 5 laps the 86 would've lost anyways.. off the line u already lost on hp.... and it took u that long to beat a car... hp matters boy .... maybe u didnt take it in science class or u never went to one...

i just hate it when ppl compare the cartoon to real life driving i love the cartoon too but it took a cartoon to convince ur butt how to drive??? how pathetic

my $0.02

it was only a joke.

[4DoorsofFury]

thanks for your input.....hopefully in a few years with a little luck i can turn fantasy into reality

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by CAMRY300RR

wraith:

only earlier 5sfe works for the 3sgte head?? which ones?? gen3 mk1?? or earlier than that the celica??

thnx

humpty

Humpty, early 3rd gen 5S-FE blocks ('91 to '93) seems to not need modifications to fit the 3S-GTE head ...