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Old 06-18-2005, 03:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Camry Timing Belt

Just found your site, great place you've got here I'm not a pro but looking forward too participate.

I have a dilemma, my Camry 1997 has 140,000 km and the timing belt is overdue.

The dilemma originates in the fact that the dealer insist on changing the perfectly working water pump while he's at it, so I wondered if I could do it myself.

Fairly good at mechanics, I've always maintained my cars myself (brakes, lubes, coolant.....). It would be my first crack at changing a TB.

My questions for you are ; - is there reason for chamging the WP? Is there a flaw on these ?

- is there a procedure somewhere to help me change the belt ?

- do I need to buy bearings or seals to do the job ?

- I read somewhere that you have to partially lift the motor to have acces to the belt tensionner, is that a fact ?

Thanks for your input, greatly appreciated.

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Old 06-18-2005, 03:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just found your site, great place you've got here I'm not a pro but looking forward too participate.

I have a dilemma, my Camry 1997 has 140,000 km and the timing belt is overdue.

The dilemma originates in the fact that the dealer insist on changing the perfectly working water pump while he's at it, so I wondered if I could do it myself.

Fairly good at mechanics, I've always maintained my cars myself (brakes, lubes, coolant.....). It would be my first crack at changing a TB.

My questions for you are ; - is there reason for chamging the WP? Is there a flaw on these ?

- is there a procedure somewhere to help me change the belt ?

- do I need to buy bearings or seals to do the job ?

- I read somewhere that you have to partially lift the motor to have acces to the belt tensionner, is that a fact ?

Thanks for your input, greatly appreciated.

Daniel.
Changing the water pump will gert a mixed review here, I would change it on you next belt, 240,000 km. But to change it now represents about $125 CDN if you DIY.

You may want to change the crank seal and tensioner spring, about $10 CDN in parts.

You don't have to lift the motor.

Search the camry thread using "timing belt" and you'll find a lot of info.

The timing belt is about $40 CDN for a DIY and the job is about 2.5 hours, but first time it might take you 5 hours.
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Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.


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Old 06-18-2005, 09:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Once you pull the belt down and have everything out of the way jsut make sure the water pump is not seeping and that it spins freely and doenst feel like th bearings are going out on it. Make sure you check the tensioner and idler pulley for the same thing. While you are at it like was suggested go ahead and make sure the cam, crank and oil pump seals arent leaking. If everything looks and sounds good then lut the belt on and go about your way. The Things I have mentioned are things that you can replace to prevent from having to do it sometime between now changing the belt and the next time it is scheduled for it. You would hate to put the belt on and then 6 months down the road have to tear it all down again to replace seals and tensioners and water pumps.
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the reason why you change the water pump at the same time is cause it not only is an absolute bitch to get at, but you'll also have to reset the timing (cause it's on the tbelt) and it going out really sucks. because not only do you risk head gasket/other damage, but your tbelt will be ruined, and you'll need another. it's good prevent-maintenance.
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is there reason for chamging the WP? Is there a flaw on these ?
Preventive maintenance.

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is there a procedure somewhere to help me change the belt ?
I4 (5S-FE):

http://www.yotarepair.com/5S-FEtimingbelt.html


V6 (1MZ-FE):

http://www.yotarepair.com/1FZ-ME_timingbelt.html


Use a bolt on type puller to remove the crank pulley. Do not use a jaw type puller.

And while your at it, replace the other 2 belts (accessory belts) too.

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Do what Cyorke said and check the seals + idler pullies.

Replace the tensioner spring. Its a $3 part.

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No.

On the 5S-FE you have to remove the left side mount. Support the motor by the edge of the oil pan or inbetween the engine and tranny. Use a floor jack and a block of wood.

Not sure about a 1MZ-FE though. I've never changed a timing belt on one of these.
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Thanks for all the replies .

Pretty helpfull.

Think i'll try changing it myself.

Keep you posted.

Thanks again.

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Old 07-22-2005, 09:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Camry timing belt

I decided to undergo the timing belt change this weekend.

One question comes to my mind after reading the archives.

Is it safe to use an impact drive to remove the crankshaft pulley bolt.

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^ Yes, its safe.

Thats how (air impact wrench) I always remove that bolt.
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Well it's done.

No trouble at all.

Thanks to everybody.

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^ Yes, its safe.

Thats how (air impact wrench) I always remove that bolt.
That bolt is the timing belt pulley bolt on the end of the crankshaft.

My question is this. Is that bolt a normal thread or does it have a reverse thread?

I'm dealing with my daughter's '92 Camry, with the 4 cylinder engine, replacing the timing belt. I've broken two 1/2 ----> 3/8 adapters trying to remove that bolt with my breaker bar (aptly named). It won't turn in either direction. I'm a bit concerned about snapping the bolt also. I'm trying to get access to an impact wrench, but have had no luck yet.

Any and all help would be appreciated.

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It should be a standard thread. I've always used an impact for removing them, since they are a Pain in the $$ to try to take off any other way.

You should be able to rent one for a few hours from almost any equpment rental place.
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That bolt is the timing belt pulley bolt on the end of the crankshaft.

My question is this. Is that bolt a normal thread or does it have a reverse thread?
Actually its the bolt for the crank pulley.

Its normal thread.

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I'm dealing with my daughter's '92 Camry, with the 4 cylinder engine, replacing the timing belt. I've broken two 1/2 ----> 3/8 adapters trying to remove that bolt with my breaker bar (aptly named). It won't turn in either direction.
Ditch the adapters and use a 1/2" drive socket. You need to get some torque on that bolt to break it loose.

Make sure you keep the flywheel or flexplate from turning. Otherwise all your going to do is spin the crank pulley around.
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Yes, it's standard thread. With an impact, it's easy to remove.

Don't worry about breaking it.

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on the DIY timing belt change. in 3 weeks my car will be at the dealership having this done... I'm too afraid to touch such important parts of my car being the year model it is.
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