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Old 07-20-2005, 01:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation Problem with warping rotors

I keep warping the front rotors (and no, I'm not a constant hard braker) on my '99 I4. Does anyone have experience with some of the aftermarket rotors and are they better than stock?
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I doubt you are warping them....more likely is uneven pad deposits

try rebedding them good a few times
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you have cross drilled and sloted rotors?
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Are you getting them put in right? Improper installation will lead to warping as well.
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Perhaps, but I've had mechanics twice tell me they were warped. The first time was on the original rotors and Midas hit me up for new ones. The same problem happened again and a different mechanic told me they were warped and he turned them - did the trick. Now, when I'm braking down from 60+ mph, I get a hell of a shake coming up through the wheel again, just like before. Thoughts?
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Perhaps, but I've had mechanics twice tell me they were warped. The first time was on the original rotors and Midas hit me up for new ones. The same problem happened again and a different mechanic told me they were warped and he turned them - did the trick. Now, when I'm braking down from 60+ mph, I get a hell of a shake coming up through the wheel again, just like before. Thoughts?

What kind of mileage you getting out of them? Usually 2 sets of pads ia about what a rotor can handle but that is very vehicle/driver/pad/etc dependant

You car has small brakes - and the Midas rotors are ??? Also, turning the rotor will of course remove any uneven transfer layer as well as iron mass. This necessitates rebedding the pads also.

Now that the rotor is turned you probably can't do it again so I'd try re bedding the pads and/or measure the runout if you have tool access. If no good then get some good quality blanks and break them in and use them properly to avoid the same thing recurring
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The original rotors started giving me the brake-shakes at about 40,000 although my first pair of pads went to 50K. My replacement rotors started brake-shaking when the car hit 100K and I had them resurfaced when I replaced my second set of pads at 110,000 miles. I just had my brakes checked at a 120K oil change, but they couldn't get the brake-shake to start. I usually don't notice it unless I'm coming down from high speed (60+ mph). But, when I do get it, it's severe. The alignment checks out fine as does the rest of the suspension. A parts-store guy suggested getting the back brakes checked to ensure the braking is even.

I dunno, I did hear a while back that the Camry rotors had a chronic warping problem, but no one now seems to think that's an issue. Maybe switching to a slotted and/or drilled rotor won't help.

I'm not familiar with 'rebedding the pads.' What does that involve? Thanks.
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The original rotors started giving me the brake-shakes at about 40,000 although my first pair of pads went to 50K. My replacement rotors started brake-shaking when the car hit 100K and I had them resurfaced when I replaced my second set of pads at 110,000 miles. I just had my brakes checked at a 120K oil change, but they couldn't get the brake-shake to start. I usually don't notice it unless I'm coming down from high speed (60+ mph). But, when I do get it, it's severe. The alignment checks out fine as does the rest of the suspension. A parts-store guy suggested getting the back brakes checked to ensure the braking is even.

I dunno, I did hear a while back that the Camry rotors had a chronic warping problem, but no one now seems to think that's an issue. Maybe switching to a slotted and/or drilled rotor won't help.

I'm not familiar with 'rebedding the pads.' What does that involve? Thanks.

Those sounds like "good" intervals I guess.

I just got some new rotors (TODAY!!! ) from Brembo. And my Solara has 33,000 miles on it and its warped.
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The original rotors started giving me the brake-shakes at about 40,000 although my first pair of pads went to 50K. My replacement rotors started brake-shaking when the car hit 100K and I had them resurfaced when I replaced my second set of pads at 110,000 miles. I just had my brakes checked at a 120K oil change, but they couldn't get the brake-shake to start. I usually don't notice it unless I'm coming down from high speed (60+ mph). But, when I do get it, it's severe. The alignment checks out fine as does the rest of the suspension. A parts-store guy suggested getting the back brakes checked to ensure the braking is even.

I dunno, I did hear a while back that the Camry rotors had a chronic warping problem, but no one now seems to think that's an issue. Maybe switching to a slotted and/or drilled rotor won't help.

I'm not familiar with 'rebedding the pads.' What does that involve? Thanks.


Those intervals do sound normal to me too. The rotors warp form heat created by the normal stopping action. This usually happens when you come to a stoplight after a long hard stop. The now hot pads are in contact with the rotors at one spot while you wait out the stoplight. This happens again and again. The only alternative would be to put the car in neutral at every stoplight after a long hard stop. This wouldn't be advisable; brakes are cheap when compared to the price of a new transmission. The next time you need new pads, change to Raybestos full ceramic pads and a new or freshly turned set of rotors. They solved the problem for me on my wife's 98 and they are are reasonably priced when compared to exotic brands. No affiliation, just a satisfied customer. Eventually though, they will all warp.

Rebedding the pads is best done by lightly sanding the surface of the old pads and then putting them back on in their same places on the caliper mounting bracket. Then try to brake as lightly as possible for the first 100 miles or so.

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I keep warping the front rotors (and no, I'm not a constant hard braker) on my '99 I4. Does anyone have experience with some of the aftermarket rotors and are they better than stock?
I had the same problem with my stock rotors, they seem to warp very easily. I added the Brembo OEM rotors (bought them from Tirerack for around $42 a rotor) with my last brake job and they haven't warped yet. I'd have to look through my logs to tell you the mileage that I have on the Brembo's, though...

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I had the same problem, the key are the pads, replace the rotors and make sure they put Ceramic pads. You can DIY it took me less than 2 hours.
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I am +130k km (80k Mi) on my original set of rotors on the 98 camry.

I just changed the 00 camry's rotors and brakes at 115K kms as the pads were worn about 2 months ago, and I used brembos, cheaper than dealer.
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Thanks all, I really appreciate the feedback. I have been running ceramic pads for since I replaced the factory pads.


I spoke with my local Toyota dealership today and all they would say was that it sounded like warped rotors to them and that they consider the problem to be using any aftermarket part, rotor or pad.

For anyone using Brembo, did you go with the regular vented or the slotted and/or drilled? I think I'll try some Brembo's but would appreciate feedback.

Another thought that occurred to me was to see if anyone has information on moving up from the smaller rotor on my 4-cyl LE to the larger size used on the V6 models. I assume it means also moving up in wheel/tire size. Has anyone out there switched? Also, I've got drum in the back, so would probably go rotors/pads all the way around. Thoughts? Thanks again.
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