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Old 07-28-2005, 05:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation Disk for Rear Drump Swap

I wanna swap my rear drump to disk brakes. Do I go look for gen4 front caliper and disk from junkyard? Any difference from v6 model? How much would that be? When I do the job, all brake fluid will leak when I pull the brakeline from the drum right? So I will need brake bleeding kit?

One more question. OEM hood need the heatshield but CF dun need becuz it has no paint right?
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I'd think you'd need a rear set from the V6 as they are smaller on the rear on the V6's, but don't quote me on that.
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Old 07-28-2005, 05:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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you need to get REAR brakes off a camry with abs or a v6, the handbrake, handbrake cable, venter console (may as well get these if youre going to all the trouble of changing the rear end that much. do a search theres a phat ass guide here somewhere...

about the heatshield, errr no.
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Why won't front fit? They fit in front and the wheels are same size?

Handbrake and venter console? Why do I need those? Price range for stuff?
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you wount have a parking brake if you use the front. if you figure out a way to make it work let me know because all the rear setup are orented around a drum brake (even disk you know when you get one) also you wount have enough pressure to use them you would need to redesigen the brake system and make new mounts for your wheels.

dont worry about the center console. search for the diy.
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I do not think you need the braking power of a disc at the back.
the drum is more than sufficient unless u have some turbo boost etc
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just get fake discs like skewe said, you dont need the rear discs.
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just get fake discs like skewe said, you dont need the rear discs.
if it is fake, better be cross drilled
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i wanna do the same thing. but it's such a hassle. install cost alot.! unless you can use the existing brake lines. but i think u need the entire braking assembly off a v6 camry. size is different for sure. because when i got my front rotors and pads they specify vg or i4 size. dont quote me on this but something about braking power and torque how more torque the more braking power you have. good luck
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should be a pretty easy swap

just make sure u get all the components from the v6
i.e don't forget the ebrake, etc as i4 works on a diff system.

some ppl on TN have done it before.
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thanks guys ~ I will refer to the service manual for the complete list of things that i would look for off a v6 camry ... rear brake system ~ there are serveal diy instructions that i found, some seems too easy and some's just crazy.

How accurate are the following instructions?
http://www.toymods.org.au/Brakes/
http://www.geocities.com/kocho_chestimenski/camry.html
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I just finished this same project on my '96. It was extremely easy.

What I did was go to a junk yard and get the entire rear wheel (knuckle, hub, disc brake and ebrake cable) setup. Make sure they don't cut the ebrake cables!!!! Also make sure the backing plates aren't too damaged.

I got everything including the knuckle mostly to be sure everything was in tact. The donor car had ABS and mine does not. Doesn't matter. The only difference is in the wheel hub & knuckle.

It's really an easy swap.
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I wanna swap my rear drump to disk brakes. Do I go look for gen4 front caliper and disk from junkyard? Any difference from v6 model? How much would that be? When I do the job, all brake fluid will leak when I pull the brakeline from the drum right? So I will need brake bleeding kit?

One more question. OEM hood need the heatshield but CF dun need becuz it has no paint right?
What year gen4 do you have and which grade?

If you have a 1997-1999 (or a 2000 CE), change your FRONT brakes first. The gen4 V6 models as well as 2000-2001 4-cyl models (except 2000CE) have bigger front disc brakes. These are very good brakes. Only thing is that you would need to upgrade the wheels to at least 15"s.
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I did mine today. Its was relatively easy (took 4 hours for both sides because the damn bolt stripped). I didnt realize that the e-brake were different on the V6. I was caught off guard by that one. I wipped out my haynes manual and it says that you have remove or drop the exhaust to get at all the bolts to the e-brake cable (I have a gen3). So now I dont have e-brakes but I will go to the junkyard tomorrow and see if I can get the cable off of the V6 camry. I hope its an easy install otherwise I am inclined not to bother with it.

Here's a question for ya: How much braking power does the rear disk brake provide? I assume that the rear calipers may account for 25% of the total braking action of the car at anytime. Also, if correct, is this any different than the drum brakes that uses shoes?
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now you gotta mess with the f/r brake bias too.

disc/disc and disc/drum cars have different brake biases from front to rear, so now its all messed up
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