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Old 08-26-2005, 10:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What you get from tokico + H&R (links to large pics)

Before (best comparable profile shot I could find)





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So... don't expect much drop... heh. About an inch. Granted when the second picture was taken the right wheel was in a little dip, but even with that the picture is pretty much what it looks like.

However, the handling is frickin' amazing. The struts and springs by themselves are excellent. When you add the Whiteline RSB and some TRW endlinks, it's fucking phenomenal. It's a totally different grip, ride, and handling characteristic.

No more oversteer from throttle-lift or trailbraking -- at least, no matter what I tried I couldn't induce it in the typical ways I have in the past. Understeer is negligible. With a stock sway you may have more.

Gonna take a little getting used to.


Lastly, I HIGHTLY recommend the TRW swaybar endlinks. They are super-easy to install/de-install and they're BEEFY compared to the stock ones. Well worth the $100 I paid.
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this may give a better idea. Fronts (when not parked in a dip, heh):

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Old 08-26-2005, 11:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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u got a link for those trw swaybar endlinks??

can u do a diy on ur install?

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Old 08-26-2005, 11:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you dont mind me asking, what was the project cost. Im looking into something similar, not as much, but along the same lines
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Let me see what I can find for a link. I ordered mine through Advance Auto... they're listed as fronts but they work on the rear as well

As for the DIY, I basically followed Haynes and this DIY RedPhoenix posted awhile ago
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t86545.html Make sure you read his notes with each pic. If you're stock you'll want to rent a spring compressor from autozone ($42 deposit).


Only thing I'd add to his install is:
- the endlinks are a giant pain in the ass if you've got old, rusty ones. I had to cut mine off with a hacksaw.

- the nut that screws onto the damper shaft on the strut has a nylon insert that has to have grooves cut into it. Consequently, when you tighten it you may hit a point where the nut stops turning and the shaft starts turning instead.

- So, You'll need a rubber-soled plier or something to hold the shaft still while you tighten. Clamp as high up to the nut as possible, because you don't want to mar the surface. I gripped up where the bumpstop sits.
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Lucanhookup: best link I can find is this. You'll need to enter the zip code. and there's no pic You'll need to have a grease gun for these, I'll note.

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...ype=78&ptset=A



Anshu: you had to ask, heh... The receipt is at work, so these are approximate values
Tokico + H&R Package from shox.com: $620 shipped (about $365 for struts I recall, shipping like $50.. springs were something like $200. Call, don't order online)
TRW End links from Advance Auto: $106

Miscellaneous things I had to buy to get the job done:
Spring compressor rental: $42 (which I will get back when I return it)
20, 21, and 22mm socket for carriage bolts and other odds and ends (damn thieves): $10
Hacksaw and two tungsten blades: $20
Grease gun for endlinks: $15
Grease: $3

So... about $726 dollars for the suspension components, and $90 in incidentals. I did all the installation myself so that helped.

You really only need a jack and one or two jackstands. A lift really helps, but isn't necessary.

If you need to buy tools... this is what I used, some I had other stuff above I bought. (Sizes noted where known)
- 1/2" drive ratchet set
- 12mm-24mm sockets (pretty sure I didn't go any higher)
- torque wrenc
- crescent wrenches (I think just 12, 14 and 19mm)
- Floor jack and jack stands
- breaker bar
- vice grips
- snub pliers
- needlenose pliers
- rubber mallet
- hammer for when I was pissed
- channel locks at some point, I can't remember what for
- shop light
- hack saw
- cutting oil
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Old 08-27-2005, 12:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting; Looks good. I will definitely go ahead with my H&R purchase now... when I have the spare funds, lol.
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Lucanhookup: best link I can find is this. You'll need to enter the zip code. and there's no pic You'll need to have a grease gun for these, I'll note.

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...ype=78&ptset=A



Anshu: you had to ask, heh... The receipt is at work, so these are approximate values
Tokico + H&R Package from shox.com: $620 shipped (about $365 for struts I recall, shipping like $50.. springs were something like $200. Call, don't order online)
TRW End links from Advance Auto: $106

Miscellaneous things I had to buy to get the job done:
Spring compressor rental: $42 (which I will get back when I return it)
20, 21, and 22mm socket for carriage bolts and other odds and ends (damn thieves): $10
Hacksaw and two tungsten blades: $20
Grease gun for endlinks: $15
Grease: $3

So... about $726 dollars for the suspension components, and $90 in incidentals. I did all the installation myself so that helped.

You really only need a jack and one or two jackstands. A lift really helps, but isn't necessary.

If you need to buy tools... this is what I used, some I had other stuff above I bought. (Sizes noted where known)
- 1/2" drive ratchet set
- 12mm-24mm sockets (pretty sure I didn't go any higher)
- crescent wrenches (I think just 12, 14 and 19mm)
- Floor jack and jack stands
- breaker bar
- vice grips
- snub pliers
- needlenose pliers
- rubber mallet
- hammer for when I was pissed
- channel locks at some point, I can't remember what for
- shop light
- hack saw
- cutting oil
thanks for the links. i appreciate that
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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congrats on your suspension mods....

a well handling camry = sleeper in the twisty roads , lol
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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awesome man, I love my H&R/tokico/whiteline rear bar on my gen 3. I wish it dropped some more too sometimes, but the handling is so great that I cant complain, not to mention the ride height is still pretty practical for a lowered car.

you think it handles great now, wait til you slap some wheels and tires on there

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Old 08-27-2005, 01:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i'm going to get the eibach springs too just to lower my fender gap. i don't want it to be low to the ground but just a small fender gap
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 08-27-2005, 03:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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don't forget a Torque Wrench to make sure you're getting the most from your nuts/bolts, etc. and so you don't overtorque something, because overtorqueing anything becomes a pain in the ass.
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Old 08-27-2005, 03:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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it should probably still drop about 1/2 an inch or so....you just installed these really recently, right? it'll still take a couple of weeks for the springs to fully settle
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^ Yeah, I'd heard about that, but I thought the settling only took a couple days. Rock.


whocares4: yeah, forgot to list the torque wrench. I've got a big, ol one that's excellent for baby seal clubbing.
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