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Old 08-27-2005, 11:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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drilled or slotted

which are better slotted or drilled rotors?
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IMO save your money, neither help.

If you are extremely hard on the brakes, you may want to consider getting them cryogenically treated.

http://www.policerotors.com/home_page.htm

IMO Raybestos PG Plus series rotors are excellent and very reasonably priced ($40 something per rotor for camry)

http://www.raybestos.com/usa/rotors.htm

If you do several 100mph to 0 stops as a regular part of your driving then you may want to consider a higher heat capable pad like the Axxis brand Ultimate or Metal Master (but keep in mind the one or two stops you do on a cold morning, you won't stop right away)

otherwise

The Hawk HPS are good performance pads

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The OEM Akebono are not bad pads at all when coupled with a good rotor.
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try brembo rotors.

do a search about cross drilled, slotted or regular rotors. lots of good info there. it was about 4-5 months back in the camry forum
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i was thinkin blank brembos w/ hawk ceramics
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i was thinkin blank brembos w/ hawk ceramics
blank brembos are definately in

i put some raybestos (not the cheap one) in on my 1993 camry and it works well.
no noise, little dust.
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so slotted and drilled rotors dont do much unless i do high speed braking and also what is the difference between composite and ceramic brake pads
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technically, it does not help in high speed breaking.
As there is less surface on slots or drilled rotors as opposed to regular rotors, it is not that effective in removing heat. The larger the surface, the faster heat dissipates.

it helps when there is a lot of water and those slots or drills will help remove water faster.

Besically, it is for WOW Factor.

FYI:
ebay cross drilled would wobble / warp faster than a non cross drilled.
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Ahh..so thats why the likes of Porshe and Ferrari cross-drill and slot their rotors...wow factor! Duh..silly me!


I put DBA slotted rotors in my Gen 2, and noticed a big improvment in braking. She hauls up now!! Ask anyone who has ridden in my car :P
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how much does it costs for 1 pair of good big brakes?
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i would stick with brembo blanks as others have said. however, if you must have something with alittle more bling then i would go with the drilled rotors over the slotted.

the reason is that slotted rotors tend to eat up pads much faster.
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anywhere from US$100-$2400
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so slotted and drilled rotors dont do much unless i do high speed braking and also what is the difference between composite and ceramic brake pads
Much of the slotting and drilling is to lessen the weight of the rotors, not improve much if any on braking. Racers us cooling fans to cool the brakes and they also use "full metallic" pads - not composite or ceramic.

For street use, the slotting and drilling is for looks -- my opinion.

PS: Never, ever buy racing pads for street use. They do not work well at low speeds or when cold.
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Ahh..so thats why the likes of Porshe and Ferrari cross-drill and slot their rotors...wow factor! Duh..silly me!


I put DBA slotted rotors in my Gen 2, and noticed a big improvment in braking. She hauls up now!! Ask anyone who has ridden in my car :P
Drilled rotors (in the case of Ferrari) are used for weight reduction. The same reason light weight performance cars also have holes drilled in the cluch and brake pedals. It is a super anal way to get rid of every last ounce of weight.

Slotted rotors actually slice the pad a bit to prevent glazing. Unless you ride your brakes, there is no need for these and preventing glazing is not a performance increase.

In all honesty, if you can lock your brakes (without ABS), they have plenty of stopping power and you have no need to increase stopping power at that point. If you can make the ABS activate on a dry road, then the same applies.

What higher end braking products can buy you is heat tolerance and modulation (for example: race pads will resist fading more than standard one as they are designed to work in a higher heat range. higher friction ratings on pads can help with modulation, a higher friction pad will grip faster, make your wheels lock up faster with less pressure on the brake pedal).

All factory braking systems I have seen have enough power to lock the wheels (or engage ABS) on a dry road if you stand on them.

If you want to stop better, install a sticky tire that will grip the road better. If your tires can grip more before they lock up, you will stop faster.

If your problem is brake fade, then high performance pads may help you as they can tolerate heat better. Drilled and slotted rotors have a lower thernal capacity than an exact rotor without the drilling/slotting. You want the highest thermal capcity possible to resist fade.

If your problem is that you warp rotors quickly, maybe the cryogenic are the way to go or if you want to spend $2000 a big brake kit with a larger rotor that has a higher thermal capacity (not worth the money in most cases IMO)

A good quality rotor made from a quality steel is all you need (this eliminates the chinese made rotors on ebay ) Brembo does make some good blanks, but IMO you pay to much simply for the name. This is why I recomend Raybestos.

Pads are another story - you have to watch compounds and heat ranges that they perform in and buy the ones that suit your driving. The high end race track pad often sucks on the street. Get the right tool for the job

Bottom line is there are zero performance advantages to slotted and drilled for a street car only negatives and an asthetic appeal mostly to those who do not realize the negatives. All companies that sell rotors will play on misinformation to make a buck.
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Old 08-27-2005, 11:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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So your saying, that they will drill minute amounts out of the disc rotors to reduce a cars weight...and yet..have a full fledged interior trim, badges, stereo etc etc..
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^ they DO serve a purpose, its just not applicable to everyone.

they wouldn't be in such wide use if there was no purpose - and the car manufacturers would go back to full rotors...drilled rotors on a 911 turbo yes, on a camry? no
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