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Old 09-01-2005, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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how rare are v6 manuals?

i currently own a 91 mr2 & although i can easily go with the turbo swap.... i sure would love to have a v6 (97+) in my mr2 sometime in the future. now i want to keep my car a manual so... i just wanted to know how rare 5pd v6 camry's & solara's were?

if i were to come accross a good deal on an auto v6, how hard would it be to source a V6 manual trans ECU & Engine harness?

also, how hard is it to get a trd supercharger & are they were buying?

any info would be great

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nevermind.. I was wrong

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Old 09-02-2005, 01:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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depends on the year..

if you're talking about 1mz 5 speeds, they were never made in the Gen 3/3.5/5/5.5 body style..

in the 4th gen, they were only available on the CEs, aka base models...

CE V6s are pretty rare, and a 5 speed on top of that...well, yeah..


in solaras, however, i think they were much more common..

the 1mz's from the Solara/Camry were pretty much identical, and will bolt in each other fine, but any other 1MZ will probably require custom work (ES300/RX300/Avalon)
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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also the 3vzfe gen3 camry came in manual's too i believe??

but only in 92-93 and 4 doors only..... correct me if i'm wrong

i think racerhex was one of those guys that owns this kind of camry, but i havent seen that guy around lately tho
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^---yeah, but he's looking for a 1mz, to S/C..

the 3VZ in the 92/93s wont bolt up to the supercharger...

although i have seen 3VZ MR2s, but they werent S/C..
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Sounds so good doesn't it? V6 MANUAL! ohhhh yea!

I have the only one of my sort in Australia (i think ), unless someone else has converted a Camry, but somehow..i doubt that!

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Old 09-02-2005, 06:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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but wouldnt it be easier to just use the 3s-gte e153 from a mr2 since it's already a manual and has all the fittings for the frame, shift stuff is already on the right side of the tranny. blah blah blah.

so all he would need then is the 1mz with the manual harnest and ecu. it would make the swap way more easy i think.
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Look up the guy that has done it already. I think he used a 3SGTE trans and it bolted up. I know a 3SGTE will bolt to a V6 trans with 4 bolts...
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thanks for the info guys, how hard is it to get the trd supercharger? and is it worth the $$$?


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but wouldnt it be easier to just use the 3s-gte e153 from a mr2 since it's already a manual and has all the fittings for the frame, shift stuff is already on the right side of the tranny. blah blah blah.

so all he would need then is the 1mz with the manual harnest and ecu. it would make the swap way more easy i think.
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Look up the guy that has done it already. I think he used a 3SGTE trans and it bolted up. I know a 3SGTE will bolt to a V6 trans with 4 bolts...
well the tranny i know i can use from the 3s... but the reason why i'm looking for a manual v6 is because i need the ecu & wiring harness that goes to the manual v6. otherwise i think you have to go through a whole different playfield to trick the auto ecu, so that it will work with a manual tranny.


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ps - can somebody break down the gen thing to me (year wise)?

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Im pretty sure they discontinued the TRD supercharger, but not totally sure. Someone please correct me if Im wrong.
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It was in consideration. There was rumors floating around here a few weeks ago I believe.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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okay, well after a couple of searches, it appears that the 1mzfe trd supercharger is still available . BUT, there appears to be 5 different superchargers for the 1mzfe engine! will any of those superchargers mate up to the v6 if its going into my mr2? are there any significant differences in the 1mzfes between car models?

343bhp & 373tq would be awesome!

i foudn some info on this site:
http://www.toysport.com/New%20Produc...erchargers.htm


PART NUMBER
APPLICATION
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00646-17620-303
97-00 Camry V6, Manual Trans

$3700.00
00646-17620-304
97-00 Camry V6, Auto Trans

$3700.00
00646-17620-301
99-00 Solara V6, Manual Trans

$3900.00
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99-00 Solara V6, Auto Trans

$3900.00
00646-17620-305
98-00 Sienna V6, Auto Trans

$3600.00
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The different vehicles call for different set-ups, a pully may be placed somewhere else and plus each 1mz-fe is not created equal.
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^ actually, the blowers should all be about identical and interchangeable with only a few differing parts- doubt the pulleys are elsewhere, though the exact mounting specifications may be slightly different between the solara/camry/sienna

and if you can find a cheap one for an auto, just pick it up and get some parts from trd to make it work for the 5spd, and vice-versa- I think the only diff is the control units
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Quote:
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in the 4th gen, they were only available on the CEs, aka base models...

CE V6s are pretty rare, and a 5 speed on top of that...well, yeah..
WRONG. My car is a 4th gen LE 5 speed V6. Came with side airbags, cruise control, alloy wheels, 6 speaker cd/tape deck etc.

From my understanding there were less than 4,500 5 speed v6 4th gen Camry produced between 97-01.

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