Injectors ? and where to tap oil?

[vsixcamry]

maybe this has been discussed, and i missed it while searching..

As you guys know i have started to turbo my 5sfe. (gave up on the tacoma). I need injectors (315-360cc) What works for this? Supra?

Also, where is the best spot to tap oil from? i noticed nate tapped it from the bottom right of his engine block.. not sure what that is, an auxillary oil tap?? thanks in advance

-alex

[noofa]

I think its supra green top injectors you need.

And you need to weld a bung to the sump for oil as the pan is to thin, or if your lucky you can use a 3sgte sump pan, but it only fits non CA emmisions tested vehicals??

Somone correct or back me up.

[vsixcamry]

c'mon turbo camries, alex is in need of your help !!!

[5Sfte]

Non turbo supra injectors... green top is right. They will run 360cc on ur car. I have tapped for oil at the oil pressure sensor on the head. Just ran a "T" fitting off of the hole that is already tapped.

[88 LE]

^ Yup.

Oil pressure switch is near the top right corner of the cylinder head.

For oil return, drill a hole in the pan (near the top), and weld on a fitting.

[vsixcamry]

anyone got a pic.. kinda lost..

[88 LE]

^ See thread below.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t72759.html

[Hamsterman]

here is a pic straight up

[zoni]

when you turbo your car you should know what you are doing... or else dont do it. it will just end up being a mess...

[sixsick6]

People do it all the time. It's survival of the fittest and an easier way for the rest of us to easily get the parts we need at the junkyard. You have no idea how many useful parts can be had from someone turboing their car with a jacked up A/F ratio and sending it to the junkies. Usually the only thing that stops the junkyards from happening are people who've spent a lot of money on looks. Like Nate.

[vsixcamry]

^ you presence here so far, has been nothing more than bashing nate man.. seriously this is probably the second thread you have put forth an attempt to ruin,

And dont you EVER tell me i dont know what i am doing man, i have turbo'd many a car. I was simply looking for the best tap...

[sixsick6]

Nope, on the contrary. I told him to watch out for his A/F or else he would no longer have a Camry to turbo. If you guys chose to view that as bashing, then that is your own fault. Do what you want, see how long your car lasts. I have plenty of information provided it doesn't get viewed as bashing by the thin skinned. There is a difference between been there done that and someone who is on their first turbocharged car.

As far as Nate's car, he slapped a turbo on it, that is elementary. Throwing a turbo on an N/A car with nothing more than it's FI counterparts is easier than stealing candy from a baby. Throwing a CT26 on an N/A 5sfe is probably the easiest thing you could do, tuning it on the other hand is not.

Nate posted his dyno plots of 250 hp but mentioned nothing about running lean, nothing whatsoever. It wasn't until I mentioned it that he probably took a look at it and realized i was right, that is counting on the fact that he knows how to read A/F ratios?

Nate, I could care less who is building your car or you saying things like "they" were supposed to tune it. YOU are not doing anything yourself. YOU are not going to learn anything if you're not doing it YOURSELF. The only thing you're going to accomplish is pointing the finger at the other guy and saying "YOU" were supposed to tune it when "YOU" should be the one tuning it.

This will leave toyotanation.com members thinking "Wow Nat'es done something special!!!" when you really have done nothing special at all.

When your engine blows because you didn't listen is when the guys who think you're doing something special will say things like "Man Nate, that sucks about your car"

And I will say "he shoulda listened"

You yourself are now following Nate's lead using the CT26. If you follow his lead air fuel wise, it will two of you with blown motors.

Did you fix that A/F ratio yet? Got any spare cash? If you do, then pick up a zeitronix wideband like I mentioned weeks ago. It'll run you around $350 and is simply the best for the dollar that you can buy at the moment. You'll thank me for it.

[vsixcamry]

i'm not following in nate's steps. I have done a lot of research before turboing this car. I have also resolved the car running lean

The 5sfe runs lean at what? .. around 4500 rpms and begins when the turbo hits around 2psi. Thus, a hobbs switch is hooked up to the ct-26, when the boost hits 2psi, the current goes to a cold start injector (110, 115, 120cc) . This provides me with enough fuel so as not to run lean. Ive done my research... furthermore, This is information people have never tried before, but some how im following in nate's footsteps??? ok man..

Nate knows his car is running lean, he does not need you to remind him everytime you log into TN. He knows the risk he is taking and he knows he has to resolve this problem. He probable wouldnt be running lean if the guy hadn't fucked the tuning... its not his fault really.

[sixsick6]

Then post your dyno slips with your A/F ratio. While you're at it, read what Corky Bell says about silly hacks like 5th injectors. If you've done a lot of research then you will know what I am talking about.
So Nate knows what he is doing, yet someone else does the "tuning" on his car, and gets blamed for it? How does that make sense? Do you see my point? 1+1 does not equal two here.

If you know how to fix it, then you fix it and quit blaming others for your own ignorance. That's all there is to it. If you'd like my advice then I'd be glad to help. I've been doing this for many many years.

[Hamsterman]

yo yo yo ok, lemme just address this once and for all ok

i thank you very much six, for noting the AF ratio was lean, you are completely right and i am not arguing with you at all... when i first read through your posts, i thought you seemed kinda "assy" in how you talked, but i can take constructive critiscm because ALL learning is good - especially on a project like this

i am just stating I KNEW the AF was lean before you brought it up - if you look @ my posts i stopped posting about my turbo setup for a while because I HAVE NOT BEEN boosting the car with the lean af's... ask anybody that i was up in toronto visiting, i was not boosting the car around, i had bad gas troubles up there and i know my timing was off, so when i got back to the states i looked at the dyno charts and saw the error... this was just informatoin i NEGLECTED to type up on the boards, since whenever i talk about my car in stages, i get a shit ton of questions i would rather just anwser in one giant post once everything is resolved...

ON THAT NOTE - my injectors are here, i am waitng on new clips from RC, my wideband o2 is here, my support tool for emanage is here and my new clutch is here... once those clips come in - it will be time to take the car into the shop, change out the fuel components and hit the streets for tuning...

YES i realize it was not a good idea to have somebody else tune the car, thus now i am going to be tuning the car on my own - step by step- with the guy that built up my motor so I MYSELF will learn to tune the car and be responsible for anything that happens... i had trusted a shop to do tuning, but i have found that i want to be able to blame myself for any issues that occur, so i am eliminating outside sources except for my engine builder and his years of expertise...

so in summary, i appreciate six's input, it was good and no arguements there, i believe he is a credible, BUT yes i did know the AF's were lean, i had just not posted that on the boards, i had not been to that thread with my AF chart for a long time, this all came from the fact that i did not look closely at the AF for a couple weeks, i was out of the country, and i did not even have the charts right away and i wasn't boosting the car, so if there was an issue which there was, i could fix it

i have researched this project a lot, probably a lot more than most, and i have been working on it piece by piece, just because i have hte turbo on my car does not mean i am boosting atm, and thus i am not in danger of fucking up the engine ATM, if i was just going around full throttle all the time, this would be an issue, but most all of the driving i have done has been on the highway under vac.

i was not pussy hurt by sixs, comments, i just thought he was giving me greif @ first, but then after reading his posts again i understand he is just trying to show the importance of tuning, which is the key to not blowing a 5s turbo - along with making sure that your setup is 100% and you have not jackassed pieces, which i have not

hope that clears up all this crap - i will post NEW charts on my car when i do them, until then i am not boosting which means no problems