"TheSnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> Huw wrote:[color=green]
>> "Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>>That's what the dealer tells me. It seems a little long; I'd be inclined
>>>to
>>>change it at 500 miles and then again at 3000. This is the '06 V8.
>>>
>>>Also, they said not to worry about engine break-in, but just to "drive
>>>the
>>>hell out of it"...
>>>
>>>Opinions?
>>>
>>>-jeff
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>>
>>
>> I am surprised that it even needs a change at 3000 miles.
>> Most Toyota engines sold in Europe, and that includes many also sold in
>> the USA, now have their first oil change scheduled for 10,000 miles. Many
>> other manufacturers now have their first oil change scheduled for 15000
>> miles or more. Yes, you read it right, fifteen thousand miles and in some
>> cases 20,000 miles.
>> I would not worry about an initial oil change at a low 3000 miles.
>>
>> OTOH it is silly to say "drive the hell out of it". Never do that unless
>> there is a *very* good reason to do so. Always drive with some mechanical
>> sympathy.
>>
>> Huw[/color]
>
>
> This is for sales not because it is the best for the engine, Rmemebr that
> they want you to buy a new truck and even if you change it every 15k it
> will still likely make it to 100k but what you have left at that mark will
> be a different matter vs frequent changes.
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I know of a few that have now exceeded 200,000 miles at 20,000 mile service
intervals. Remember that these engines are superior design and quality
engines using better oils and your Toyota may not qualify. There are no
issues with Toyota at 10,000 mile schedules in Europe.
Follow the guidelines set out in the official service schedule. American
sold engines from International manufacturers have their service schedules
sharply increased in density due to the mindset there as exemplified above
in your post. Far easier and more profitable for the manufacturer to specify
an oil change every 3000 miles as the customer is brainwashed to accept this
and suspect an ulterior motive for reduced maintenance schedules.
VW started offering extended service schedules with no early first change
but found that many idiots were still changing oil at the first 500 miles
causing the cylinders to glaze. They gave up in the end and reduced their
intervals and gave a first service at something like 2500 miles which was
just about acceptable to their customers and gave a reasonable chance of a
successful running-in. This was far easier than trying to educate 3000 mile
'ostriches'.
Basically, quality engines do need to be run-in reasonable hard and with no
initial oil change to give of their best.
Huw
