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Old 01-11-2006, 01:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: first oil change at 3000 miles on a new Tundra?

Sharx35 wrote:[color=blue]
> "Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:42l0t3F1jflnjU1@individual.net...[color=green]
>> Philip wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:42kiacF1jqs8pU1@individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "TheSnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4a8xf.6073$ZA2.247@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> This is for sales not because it is the best for the engine,
>>>>> Rmemebr that they want you to buy a new truck and even if you
>>>>> change it every 15k it will still likely make it to 100k but what
>>>>> you have left at that mark will be a different matter vs frequent
>>>>> changes.
>>>>
>>>> I know of a few that have now exceeded 200,000 miles at 20,000
>>>> mile service intervals. Remember that these engines are superior
>>>> design and quality engines using better oils and your Toyota may
>>>> not qualify. There are no issues with Toyota at 10,000 mile schedules
>>>> in Europe. Follow the guidelines set out in the official service
>>>> schedule. American sold engines from International manufacturers
>>>> have their service schedules sharply increased in density due to
>>>> the mindset there as exemplified above in your post. Far easier
>>>> and more profitable for the manufacturer to specify an oil change
>>>> every 3000 miles as the customer is brainwashed to accept this and
>>>> suspect an ulterior motive for reduced maintenance schedules.
>>>>
>>>> VW started offering extended service schedules with no early first
>>>> change but found that many idiots were still changing oil at the
>>>> first 500 miles causing the cylinders to glaze. They gave up in the
>>>> end and reduced their intervals and gave a first service at
>>>> something like 2500 miles which was just about acceptable to their
>>>> customers and gave a reasonable chance of a successful running-in.
>>>> This was far easier than trying to educate 3000 mile 'ostriches'.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, quality engines do need to be run-in reasonable hard and
>>>> with no initial oil change to give of their best.
>>>>
>>>> Huw
>>>
>>> Huw. You've not kept up with Toyota 'here.' Due in part not only
>>> to Toyota's V6 sludging experience but also Chrysler's and VW's
>>> similar experience with longer service intervals, Toyota has
>>> shortened up their service intervals to 5,000 miles and installed
>>> in-dash oil service reminder devices.[/color]
>>
>> VW have had no such issues. Their issue was of people changing the
>> initial fill of oil too soon. Mercedes and BMW persist in the longer
>> service intervals as do all manufacturers in more enlightened areas
>> and this includes Toyota who are known to be the most conservative
>> in this respect. Even Toyota have 10,000 intervals here. Many GM and
>> VAG cars have long had 20,000 mile oil change intervals. Ford are on
>> 12000. In fact I cannot think of any manufacturer off-hand, apart
>> from Toyota with oil change intervals below 12000 miles at the
>> moment. Even my new Fiat Panda diesel, which incedentally acheives
>> between 65 and 70 mpg, has 12000 mile oil changes.
>>
>> Huw
>>[/color]
>
> Why do YOU have such a FUCKING problem with 5,000 mile oil changes?[/color]

If that is what Toyota recomends in your area I have no problem with it. Why
do YOU have a temper problem and such a limited vocabulary?
Why are YOU so obsessed with changing oil?


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> I have my 99 Camry 6 cyl's SYNTHETIC oil and filter changed every
> 6000 kilometres or 6 months, whatever comes first. Unless you ALWAYS
> drive long highway distances, in MODERATE temperatures, those longer
> intervals are purely hypothetical.[/color]

Says an obsessive compulsive oil changer with nothing better to worry about.
LOL




Why BITCH and WHINE and MOAN, like[color=blue]
> YOU do, over spending a few dollars for oil changes, when protecting
> an investment of TENS of thousands of dollars?[/color]

I am not the one with obsessive/compulsive oil change disorder.

Huw


 
 
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