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Old 10-04-2005, 05:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I cannot post new threads, anybody know why?

If I use Tsunami, or Monster, or some no name brand, how much of a difference does it make?

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Ever since the update i cant reply outside of quick reply, cant quote, and can't post new threads.... why???

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Old 10-04-2005, 06:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not much.

If anything, it would depend on how/where you run the wire (in order to minimize interference...amongst other things)...

Some will claim that wiring makes the world of a difference....
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's a touchy subject. I guess it depends on the quality of the speakers, the quality of the amps, the quality of the signal.

For instance if you have McIntosh Amps, with a Denon Z1 headunit, and Rainbow References, or Seas Lotus Speakers, all VERY high end stuff, you Might be able to tell a small difference from regular speaker wiring and RCA's compared to say IXOS's top of the line RCA's and some exspensive speaker wire.

However in a normal install, pick out something that is durable and decent quality.

For RCA's twisted type RCA's are supposed to help block out unwanted noise. For speaker wire, you want oxygen free copper. I prefer to use Tinned Oxygen Free copper wiring (Knukonceptz has it) At least 16 gauge for speakers, and preferably 12 gauge for subs.

Here's some reading info on wiring.

http://www.bcae1.com/wire.htm
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wire is wire.....
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The only issue I would really be concerned about would be with the gauge of the wire and whether or not it can handle the power going through it. Essentially to prevent a fire hazard and prevent excessive voltage drop due to the length and insufficient gauge.
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Okay, thanks. I was just wondering because my friend (who works at RadioShack and is an authorized MMats dealer) said he can get me a 4 gauge amp wiring kit for $25 and I was like WTF . Usually the cost around $100, so I was just wondering if it was to good to be true.
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As someone who belonged to the Audio Engineering Society at one of the biggest engineering colleges in the country, there's NO difference between wires. There was a grad student there doing his thesis on the differences between different types and sizes of wires.

Sure, you can tell the difference when the wires are not properly sized for the amount of power going through them. Like if you were to use 24 ga. speaker wire on a pair of subs with 1000w going to them and then a/b test using 12 ga. speaker wire..

I have a set of $200 Soundstream interconnects (I think they are SL-1 or something like that.. the "silver" ones) that I use for the front channels in my system. I also use a set of Scosche interconnects that's running right along side them for the rear channels, they are the ones that come in the 4 ga. wiring kit for $25 for everything at Wal-Mart. I have tried a/b testing with the 2 interconnects, and there's NO DIFFERENCE that I can hear. (I am using a/d/s/ PQ-20 amps, Alpine Type R coaxes up front with Type R tweeters in the pillars)
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Okay, thanks. I was just wondering because my friend (who works at RadioShack and is an authorized MMats dealer) said he can get me a 4 gauge amp wiring kit for $25 and I was like WTF . Usually the cost around $100, so I was just wondering if it was to good to be true.

High end brands cost 100 bucks. www.Knukonceptz.com sells 4 guage wiring for 22 bucks.
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http://sound.westhost.com/cables.htm

Something to read if anyone's bored.

I like wiring with good build quality and nice aesthetics.

I can't tell the difference in the way it sounds, but I can tell the difference in the way it installs
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I would say the gauge and number of strands of the wire makes more of a difference than the brand
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I would say the gauge and number of strands of the wire makes more of a difference than the brand
I agree,proper awg for the job.
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Old 10-16-2005, 09:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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read first post please
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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just remember. if you buy generic kits from ebay, say you buy 4 awg, its more like 10awg wire in ass load of insulation. Stick with your better brands, doesnt matter what it is. I went with stinger, cheapest I could find.
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I bought 10' of 4g wire from PartsExpress and compared it to some leftover I had from KnuKonceptz (Collosus cable). Although the diameter of the cable is the same, the actual stranded wire inside the KnuKonceptz cable was denser and tougher than the cheaper stuff from PartsExpress (which had thicker insulation and not as much actual wire).

Now, whether you can hear a difference... that's another question. But I installed the Knu wire.
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