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Old 11-27-2005, 09:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen5 Budget of $200-$300 for just speakers

I have a 2002 Camry LE with base audio system. My biggest complain is with my rear speakers. It is a family car and my wife is always complaining about the rear speakers.

My question is if I could spend $200-$300, can I just change my rear speakers and the front door speakers. Would that make significant difference? I would probably prefer to go to best buy or something and pay them $35 to install per pair.
Can Best buy or other place like that have ¾ “ spacers to install good 6X9s in the door. I definitely need to change the rears first.

I just need something better. I don’t need an amp or a woofer. I will be happy if all six of my speakers work and they sound much better than the OEM ones. I don’t need them to be loud just better sounding.

Please help………If you have any suggestions with the speakers or setup you are most welcome.
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Look into JL Audio's website, find out what sizes you need, and look on eBay. Purchase them, and then get them installed.

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Old 11-27-2005, 10:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd use that 300 dollar budget, spend 30 of it on an LOC from www.davindnavone.com. 70 of it on a 2 channel amp for the front speakers. 150 for some components then another 50 bucks on some RAAMmat for the front doors.

Should turn out pretty good.

*Just disconnect the rear speakers


I'll see if I can find some stuff in that price range if you want.
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It's http://www.davidnavone.com/


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Old 11-27-2005, 11:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd use that 300 dollar budget, spend 30 of it on an LOC from www.davindnavone.com. 70 of it on a 2 channel amp for the front speakers. 150 for some components then another 50 bucks on some RAAMmat for the front doors.

Should turn out pretty good.

*Just disconnect the rear speakers


I'll see if I can find some stuff in that price range if you want.


sorry, I have to disagree on that one....
if he doesn't have a subwoofer, then just components and 6.5s just won't do the job properly...he'll need some rear speakers just to use as fillers.....

it's a different story when you have bass though
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Rear fill is a personal preference. Some like it, some don't.

Look at it like this. He has 300 dollars to spend. Front components are pretty much a must for any kind of decent system. So figure to spend at least 150 bucks for a decent front component system. Then the difference from head unit power to an external amplifier's power is night and day. So figure at least 80 bucks to 100 bucks for an amp.

Ok so he's left with 50-70 bucks.

Now with that money would you rather spend that on some rear coaxials(which are going to cause bad imaging and soundstaging in the first place) or use that money for installation needs like deadener-Which in itself will add more midbass response in the front doors and wiring?

If you use part of your budget for rear speakers then that is going to take away your budget on the stuff that really matters.

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it's a different story when you have bass though
When you have bass from a sub as well, now your rear speakers are being affected by your subs, they are also causing less air to be moved into the cabin through the rear deck from the subs.

It's a win win situation when you ditch the rears.
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t107473.html

My feelings on Rear Fill is broken down in a little more detail on the second page.

I do think Rear fill has it's place in some certain types of installs.

If someone is using a 5.1 Processor like the Alpine H701 and is using a DVD Audio or Video install, then having rear speakers is a must.
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A good set of frts. amped will rock,setup properly of course.I can play just my frts w/o subs and still have a smile on my face.Like mentioned above u can do the LOC but I would go with a 4 channel for frts & rears,if ur not doing subs.Also let me mention that I have the same vehicle u have and aftermarket 6x9's(both frt & rear) will NOT drop right in ,I had to make a spacers for mines.
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Old 11-28-2005, 03:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Here are some pix of the rear setup,which had been removed for imaging purposes but just to give u a general idea what ur up against.
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Old 11-28-2005, 03:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Those are some ugly rear-fills.

Glad you got rid of 'em.
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Lets say I decide to spend the money and get good component speakers, which I beleive have tweeters seperate (right?), how would I get them install. Can I do it myself. Is there a how to. I don't even know how to open my door panels.
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Honestly, if I new how to; I am skill full enough to install anything myself. I just don't want to start blind. I can even spend the money on hardware if I was sure enough that I would be installing it myself. I probably need a manual like information though.
My only hope is you guys.
Really appreciate all the information. I am a complete noob when it comes to any type of audio systems (home or auto) I just haven't spent enough months/years reading about it.
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Old 11-28-2005, 09:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Lets say I decide to spend the money and get good component speakers, which I beleive have tweeters seperate (right?), how would I get them install. Can I do it myself. Is there a how to. I don't even know how to open my door panels.

It's actually pretty easy if you have a basic idea. I'll gather up some recent threads that will help...
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It's actually pretty easy if you have a basic idea. I'll gather up some recent threads that will help...
You are the Guru. Really appreciate it. I know I will have lot of questions if I decide to do this myself. If I learn it over the years I will probably spend a lot on hardware. I just hate see my money go in installations at places that do half a** job.

How would I make the spacers. Can i buy them somewhere?

Do you think this could be useful: http://www.carstereoremoval.com/htm/...amry97_01P.htm

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Old 11-28-2005, 09:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i think its great that you are goign to try this yourself. toyota cars are relatively easy to install for... well at least compared to other makes.



and it does depend on what music you listen to and what taste you have. if you get a good set of components, you may not want to have rear fill or a subwoofer... its all up to the person listening
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Old 11-28-2005, 09:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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www.millionbuy.com get some pionneer 2 ways in the front and some 3ways in the back find out the size of the speakers by looking in ur manual and if dont know how to install them take it to a nearby audio shop or a bestbuy...etc..... good shit bought a banging sound system for 800 buks and going to install it when it gets warmer or one of those warm winter weekends when its like 50 60 degrees outside
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