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Old 07-28-2007, 02:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Subwoofer IDQ10, ID10, or....?

I want to get a 10" sub and currently looking at the Image Dynamics IDQ10 or ID10. What is the difference between these two aside from price? Looking at the descriptions and the response curves from ID's website, it looks like the ID10 gets a bit louder on the low end, approx 10Hz to 30Hz, and the IDQ is targeted more towards SQ.

I will put them in a seal enclosure.

Any other sub suggestions? I am looking at 10" subs that will work in a sealed enclosure that is approx 0.7 CF of smaller and my price range for a sub is approx $150.

I want to build my system more for SQ than SPL and I am not a bass junkie.

I will only use one sub and have a JBL GTO 755.6 amp that will put out 300W @ 4 ohms to the sub. The IDQ10 is supposed to be powered only by 250W RMS. My headunit puts out 6.5V pre-out and the amp specifies a maximum pre-in voltage of 6V. Am I going to have an issue overpowering the IDQ10? I'm thinking that if the gain is turned down, I should be ok.
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I want to get a 10" sub and currently looking at the Image Dynamics IDQ10 or ID10. What is the difference between these two aside from price? Looking at the descriptions and the response curves from ID's website, it looks like the ID10 gets a bit louder on the low end, approx 10Hz to 30Hz, and the IDQ is targeted more towards SQ.

I will put them in a seal enclosure.
If they are going in a sealed enclosure you will have a very hard time hearing the difference, It looks like the ID10 in a dual 2 ohm is the better bet. I modeled both of them in a box builder program and the group delay is good (and almost identical) for both. Should give you a nice tight sound either way.

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I will only use one sub and have a JBL GTO 755.6 amp that will put out 300W @ 4 ohms to the sub. The IDQ10 is supposed to be powered only by 250W RMS. My headunit puts out 6.5V pre-out and the amp specifies a maximum pre-in voltage of 6V. Am I going to have an issue overpowering the IDQ10? I'm thinking that if the gain is turned down, I should be ok.
If your deck actually puts out the voltage that it claims (not many do and I have measured many decks on an oscilloscope at copmpetitions when doing tweak & tune sessions) , and your amp is right on its tolerances for voltage on the RCA's then all that means is that you have is a situation where you can turn the amp's gain adjustment all the way down and you will still get full output out of the amp. In fact you may not be able to turn it all the way up before you hear distortion( if it actually puts out 6.5 volts clean and the amp can only take a max of 6 volts.)

ID specs that you can use up to 300 watts on the IDQ10's you should be golden. Plus SQ guys are faaar less likely to blow subs as they are not usually blasting their system well beyond its limits (that would lead to distortion and that does not sound good)
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Id just go with an ID. IDQ recommend a low amount of power, but ive heard they can be a bit quietSpecially with only one ten, but then again if you just want it to go along with the music it should be alright.

I would alsol suggest the Peerless XXLS 10" It says it requires around .5-.7 cf and only needs around 200 watts. Should be great with your amp.

http://www.speakercity.com/Merchant2...ct_Code=830876

heres the site.. Its a little pver your budget but i think it would definatly be a good choice.. but I definatly wouldnt put an ID or an IDQ out of the park.. besides that I wouldnt really recommend anything else.
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I second the peerless as well, one hell of a sub!
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I want to get a 10" sub and currently looking at the Image Dynamics IDQ10 or ID10. What is the difference between these two aside from price? Looking at the descriptions and the response curves from ID's website, it looks like the ID10 gets a bit louder on the low end, approx 10Hz to 30Hz, and the IDQ is targeted more towards SQ.

I will put them in a seal enclosure.

Any other sub suggestions? I am looking at 10" subs that will work in a sealed enclosure that is approx 0.7 CF of smaller and my price range for a sub is approx $150.

I want to build my system more for SQ than SPL and I am not a bass junkie.

I will only use one sub and have a JBL GTO 755.6 amp that will put out 300W @ 4 ohms to the sub. The IDQ10 is supposed to be powered only by 250W RMS. My headunit puts out 6.5V pre-out and the amp specifies a maximum pre-in voltage of 6V. Am I going to have an issue overpowering the IDQ10? I'm thinking that if the gain is turned down, I should be ok.
I have used/installed both of those subs in many applications and IMO the IDQ sounds much better. You may also consider the ARC 10 as it has similar SQ to the IDQ IMO with more output however it may be a bit out of your budget.
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I called around and the Arc 10 is about the same price as an IDQ10. The guy at one shop in Highland was very helpful and told me that the IDQ10 and the Arc 10 are pretty much going to sound the same.
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If your deck actually puts out the voltage that it claims (not many do and I have measured many decks on an oscilloscope at copmpetitions when doing tweak & tune sessions) , and your amp is right on its tolerances for voltage on the RCA's then all that means is that you have is a situation where you can turn the amp's gain adjustment all the way down and you will still get full output out of the amp. In fact you may not be able to turn it all the way up before you hear distortion( if it actually puts out 6.5 volts clean and the amp can only take a max of 6 volts.)
I have a Premier DEH-P860MP but I've never tried to measure the preout voltage. I have a DMM, but I think the frequency will be far greater than what the DMM can handle. I don't have an oscilloscope to measure it. I have them at work, but they are not portable and we don't have any 12V DC power supply to turn the HU on.

ID specs that you can use up to 300 watts on the IDQ10's you should be golden. Plus SQ guys are faaar less likely to blow subs as they are not usually blasting their system well beyond its limits (that would lead to distortion and that does not sound good)
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

Sounddomain.com specs the IDQ10 as 250W RMS, but ID's website says 300W RMS. I knew I wasn't crazy The Arc 10, however, is spec'd to 250W RMS per Arc Audio's website. It'll be 20% over, but I think I might still be ok if I go that route. I've put 150W RMS into a pair of components that were spec'd to 100W RMS 300W max.
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I called around and the Arc 10 is about the same price as an IDQ10. The guy at one shop in Highland was very helpful and told me that the IDQ10 and the Arc 10 are pretty much going to sound the same.
I have both of those subs available and if you happen to be near Monterey you would be more than welcome to come by and listen yourself. I'm pretty sure you would agree that they sound "similar" however you can definitely tell the difference when they are side by side especially when you crank them up (or at least I can! )
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I'd love to take you up on the offer, but if you'll look at this map you'll see I am quite far away.

I am planning to go on leave and go to San Francisco. Perhaps I could swing by on the way up there.
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I'd love to take you up on the offer, but if you'll look at this map you'll see I am quite far away.

I am planning to go on leave and go to San Francisco. Perhaps I could swing by on the way up there.
Just give me a call whenever you are in the area
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