Good Bass "Bundles"?

[Venom_5]

are there any good packages that include Subs, Box, and Amp for around $150-200?

just wondering if anyone's seen any advertised at places like Circuit City, Best Buy, or any online sites like Crutchfield ... i did a quick browse, but i dont really know what to look for in an amp (i have somewhat of an idea for the subs tho)

just post up some links if you have any handy any info is appreciated ...

[Black95Cam]

usually you can get a package from CC or BB.. for an amp, it comes down to what your using for and paring that up to the sub(s). and from that point pick a box type, sealed or ported depending on what type of music you listen to.

[Venom_5]

i listen to a lot of Electronica (mostly Trance, some Drum-n-Bass) ... and the usual Hip-Hop/RnB as well

i just need a better bottom-end ... my factory speakers paired with my JVC headunit give a good sound, but there isnt much bass for me to enjoy - idk what sort of RMS wattage i need out of subs & amp to make it worth while

[Black95Cam]

for the box type i would recommend sealed just becase it sounds better for the drum n bass type songs but for hip hop, its not. vice versa for ported. cant have all em.. lol. as for as the WRMS goes, if you just want some bass then about 200 - 400 wrms should be enough. not sure but at BB, they have some insignai (sp?) that are pretty decent for what you pay. its a simple entry level set up.


if you want, i might be able to get a video clips of my system..

[Venom_5]

ttt

[xet]

i really wouldnt recommend one of the premade ones, for 200 bucks its is kinda hard but possible you can get a 10 or 12 sub for prob a bit less than 100 and the rest of the money put towards the amp. Do you have a table saw or jigsaw or something if you do you can save some money and build your own box

[Black95Cam]

anyone can build a box. but to make it sound good and building a box both take some measurements and calculation. if you can do it go for it.


10% are sub(s) itself and 90% is the box.

[Venom_5]

ive built 2 boxes before .... but never for car audio ... only to have a box for my room or garage

i think i would want a good box for my car, so ill probably by one .... are the Q-Logic boxes garbage?

[Black95Cam]

pretty much all the pre-fab box are okay for what it is. if your are able to a build a box to match the spec of the sub(s) it will be much louder and the sub(s) will be more efficient. the Q-Logic box im not sure how they sounds. i havent been to BB (best buy) or CC (circuit city) for a while but if i have time i'll drop by to see what's the most bang for the buck deal they have. if you can do the installation yourself. my buddy learn that the hard way.

i'll try to get a video up tomorrow.

[TbombsGen3]

Seriously, if you have already built 2 speaker boxes than you should be able to do this. Just take your time. If a certain shape isnt a requirement then a simple cube isnt a hard thing to do. Just take your time and to it right. There are plenty of DIY article on box building online if you need help. Definitely go sealed. Ported is not something to attmpt without lots of knowledge/experience. Plus, it sounds better IMHO and covers a broader range of music tastes. The Qlogic boxes are ok, but you can save a ton of $$ doing it yourself and you learn something.

And if you are just trying to dip your toe into car audio then buying used is your friend. Check this forum and other car audio forums first. One I like is icixsound.com.

If nothing then check Ebay, craigslist, whatever. Plenty of quality equipment out there for not a lot of money. Better buying used quality than new crap.

If you still dont find anything there are plenty of us who have stuff laying around and not being used. My name on icix is the same as here. I have plenty of used stuff to help you get into the game. Also, remember that subs and subs alone do not a system make. But I do understand the craving for some low end first. Just remember to balance it out at some point.

[Black95Cam]

Originally Posted by TbombsGen3

Seriously, if you have already built 2 speaker boxes than you should be able to do this. Just take your time. If a certain shape isnt a requirement then a simple cube isnt a hard thing to do. Just take your time and to it right. There are plenty of DIY article on box building online if you need help. Definitely go sealed. Ported is not something to attmpt without lots of knowledge/experience. Plus, it sounds better IMHO and covers a broader range of music tastes. The Qlogic boxes are ok, but you can save a ton of $$ doing it yourself and you learn something.

not really. on a sealed box, playing rock and double bass sounds will sound good but when using a seal box for hip hop, rap, it doesnt respond as well as the air being build up have no where to go. vice versa with the ported. i've had sealed and ported in my car. and to me I CAN tell the difference. sealed box are easier to build but make sure you get the dimension for how big you want the box to be. then most subs come with a chart showing much space is need for that particular sub when using a seal or ported enclosure.

[TbombsGen3]

For the most part is is true that a ported box will be louder vs. same sub/same amp in a sealed box. Which, i guess, makes it better if you predominately listen to rap/"r&b"(which isnt really r&b) since most of the beats are focused in the freq range that a ported box accentuates. (which is a limited range of subbass)

Sealed boxes have many more pros than the cons of ported. They are much more predictable and mechanically reliable. And if the right sub is in the proper sealed box it can play any music and be loud, but more importantly (to me at least) sound cleaner. Also, keeping everything else equal, a sealed box/sub will play lower.

No need to get into a sealed/ported debate. Makes as much sense as a turbo vs supercharger flamewar. Most of us know they each have their place. And I have heard some very clean and loud ported boxes. Also, ported boxes, as we both stated, are MUCH more difficult to make properly. A single sub sealed box cant get much simpler. And the OP could be surprised how much output a single 12" sub, properly setup can put out. You dont have to have 2 15's in a 5cuft box with a "900 watt" kenwood amp to have a great substage.

But with his goal of a budget in mind, sealed would seem the way to go. Plus, he wouldnt have to find an amp/hu with a subsonic filter. A single 10 or 12 w/200-350 watts should more than suffice his early cravings.

[TbombsGen3]

OP,

I looked at your profile and saw you have a gen 3.5 camry. I used to have the same. I had several "sytems" in that car. One of my favorites was (1) Kicker Comp 12(old school c series, not the crap of today) running off a ZR240 (again old school kicker) Actually....I had 2 comp 12's with the ZR240 but went to 1 running of the rear channels of a ZX460 (200 watts). Had a kicker resolution component set up front. I can not tell you how clean that setup was, and it could get plenty damn loud. Crazy thing is I still have all that equipment and it still sounds great (except the resolution comps)

But you could find similar stuff used and have a great setup w/o spending a ton of cash at the big box stores.

Here are a few auctions i found with equip I am talking about. Some of this stuff I have myself (but not my auctions)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=009

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=010

http://cgi.ebay.com/JL-Audio-12-W3-S...QQcmdZViewItem

The last link is for an older JL W3. It is a 4 ohm Dual voice coil speaker, so make sure the amp can be wired at 2 ohms bridged (which the kickers are) I know I keep bringing up Kicker, but that is one of the companies I am experienced with.The older stuff is just plain good, as well as JL obviously. Not trying to make a buck off of you, but if you have any other questions let me know. There are also many great online only companies such a elemental designs (great subs/prices), RE, whatever. Just look around, but please resist the urge for instant gratification of BB or CC.

[Black95Cam]

rating on amp are over rated.. its may say 900 watts but break it down intot he RMS rating and use that per ohm load, its not nearly as much. other i would be claiming i have a 1000+ watt amp but its actually rated at 500 WRMS at 2 ohm load. but its just me.. im a bass head.. the louder the better..

sealed = sound quality
ported = sound pressure

even though my is ported it is able to hit those double bass with no problem. might not sounds as good but it get the job done..

he already have a JVC head unit. thats why he looking for a deal for an amp and sub bundle.

it will be hard to get a bundle in that range as i was browsing through the best buy site. they have a deal on 2 12s in a ported box with blue neon (ricy but its was listed at 158.99 or somewhere around there). but try on black friday. usually they have some deals going on..


edit.. i know BB or CC dont have the best stuff.. my $900 custom system is louder then my friend's $1000
(with installation) system which he got from BB. he wanted a deal so i suggested BB or CC cause they usually have a package deal which he is looking for.

[Black95Cam]

its not just all about what you have, its also on how you tune it..


http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/boa...showtopic=4319
How to tune your system..

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/boa...showtopic=4295
how to build a SPL (ported box)


BTW, You get what you pay for.