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Old 06-02-2008, 11:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation tweeters

does anyone know how to install them...and would it make a difference if i got subs on??
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are you adding tweeters to the stock setup?

subs make a difference like night and day
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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does anyone know how to install them...and would it make a difference if i got subs on??
Tweeters are easy to install. You can mount them behind the side view mirrors. They have flush and surface mount ones. I prefer the surface mount since you just screw them on and you can point them where you'd like (high frequency sounds are directional). Flush mount requires you to cut a hole on where you're going to mount it to.

They're easy to install, just tap into the terminals of the speakers on your door, you'll have to rip out the door panel, very easy.

Tweeters also make a big difference, specially if your stock speakers only has a full range driver.

If you get a sub, you might also want to get "bass blockers" and hook them up with your door speakers. They prevent bass frequency from getting to the speakers since stock speakers will just sound shitty pathetically trying to produce some bass.

One of the reasons why I don't like cars with trunks is that bass doesn't travel well inside the car like a hatchback. A good pair of 6X9s with a good powerful amp will sound great using your trunk as the enclosure and sound provide good bass. IMO, good accurate bass > ghetto bass.

crutchdield.com is a good place to start.
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thanks for the inputs guys
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you get a sub, you might also want to get "bass blockers" and hook them up with your door speakers. They prevent bass frequency from getting to the speakers since stock speakers will just sound shitty pathetically trying to produce some bass.

One of the reasons why I don't like cars with trunks is that bass doesn't travel well inside the car like a hatchback. A good pair of 6X9s with a good powerful amp will sound great using your trunk as the enclosure and sound provide good bass. IMO, good accurate bass > ghetto bass.

crutchdield.com is a good place to start.
if you have a HU that has built in crossovers, you dont need the bass blockers

and subs in the trunk don't sound ghetto at all, but of course wont sound as good as hatches or trucks with subs because the subs are right behind you

removing the rear speakers will help allow the bass to travel into the cabin

but even still, you get ghetto bass from ghetto subs and a ghetto setup
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i'm not sure if my hu has bass blocker...i have a kenwood dvd player, not sure of the model because my girlfriend bought it for me, but im saying, cus i was told that if i have subs in then installing tweeters will be a bit different...so in conclusion....have subs will make a difference or not??
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if you have a HU that has built in crossovers, you dont need the bass blockers
I have never ever seen a HU with built in crossovers. Cross overs are usually external devices that connect between the speaker output of the HU and the terminals of the speakers itself.

You can turn down the bass from the head unit, guess what... it'll also turn down the bass coming from the reciever to the amp.

Bassblockers are like $5 each so I really see no reason not to get them.
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I have never ever seen a HU with built in crossovers. Cross overs are usually external devices that connect between the speaker output of the HU and the terminals of the speakers itself.

You can turn down the bass from the head unit, guess what... it'll also turn down the bass coming from the reciever to the amp.

Bassblockers are like $5 each so I really see no reason not to get them.
what kind of headunits are you buying?

here's an affordable one: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...-P5000UB?tab=B

built in equalizers are great also, which that HU also has

using bass blockers is ghetto rigging the install imo
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i'm not sure if my hu has bass blocker...i have a kenwood dvd player, not sure of the model because my girlfriend bought it for me, but im saying, cus i was told that if i have subs in then installing tweeters will be a bit different...so in conclusion....have subs will make a difference or not??
like I said earlier, the difference subs make is like night and day, your music will come alive, with a nice setup and install that is

ever sit in someone's car with subs or visit a car audio store?
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what kind of headunits are you buying?

here's an affordable one: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...-P5000UB?tab=B

built in equalizers are great also, which that HU also has

using bass blockers is ghetto rigging the install imo
That unit has crossovers for an external amp only not from the built in amplifier. So if you were to connect this to your speakers, without an external amp, you'd still have the problem of low frequencies making an ass out of your factory speakers.

Bassblockers... ghetto? All bassblockers are is a capacitor. Capacitors are used in ALL PASSIVE crossovers in speaker systems. Rip open ANY speaker in your house that have a midrange and a tweer and you'll be certain to find a capacitor in the crossover.

Can he use that head unit, and 2 separate amplifiers for the hi and low frequencies? Sure he can but that'll cost him a shitload of cash.

I think he is just interested on installing tweeters... not spending a grand just to avoid "bassblockers".
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That unit has crossovers for an external amp only not from the built in amplifier. So if you were to connect this to your speakers, without an external amp, you'd still have the problem of low frequencies making an ass out of your factory speakers.

Bassblockers... ghetto? All bassblockers are is a capacitor. Capacitors are used in ALL PASSIVE crossovers in speaker systems. Rip open ANY speaker in your house that have a midrange and a tweer and you'll be certain to find a capacitor in the crossover.

Can he use that head unit, and 2 separate amplifiers for the hi and low frequencies? Sure he can but that'll cost him a shitload of cash.

I think he is just interested on installing tweeters... not spending a grand just to avoid "bassblockers".
Um. No you don't. The HU has an internal amp, meaning external amp not necessary! Where did you learn about car audio?

Bassblockers are the easy way out, so ghetto imo. Do something right or don't do it at all, that's my motto.

I never told him to get a HU and not bassblockers, just letting him know his options.
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uhhhh....thanks i guess....i think what im trying to ask is i already have subs in my car, now i want to install tweeters, do i need crossover for it or no?
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Um. No you don't. The HU has an internal amp, meaning external amp not necessary! Where did you learn about car audio?
That head unit has a built in crossover FOR THE EXTERNAL AMP. You can NOT send a discrete high and low frequency on ONE speaker output. They have to be separate, that head unit does NOT have separate speaker outs PER CHANNEL. The cross over it has is for EXTERNAL AMPLIFIERS.

Before you question anybody's knowledge you must first learn to read.

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Bassblockers are the easy way out,
Bassblockers/capacitors are used in ALL speakers that SHARE an input terminal for all frequencies. Capacitors keep the low frequencies out so that a tweeter won't have to play a sound that it can NOT reproduce.

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so ghetto imo.
This is the crossover of a Paradign speaker, which is nowhere near ghetto

Notice the coil and the CAPACITOR? Bassblockers ARE CAPACITORS. Get that through your hollow head.

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Do something right or don't do it at all, that's my motto.
You are obviously WRONG.

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I never told him to get a HU and not bassblockers, just letting him know his options.
I suggest you pick up a "Loud speakers for dummies" book before you go jumping into message boards and thinking you're Einstein and questioning people's knowledge.
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uhhhh....thanks i guess....i think what im trying to ask is i already have subs in my car, now i want to install tweeters, do i need crossover for it or no?
No. Most tweeters have a built in crossover so you just tap the terminals with the regular speakers.

If you just want tweeters and don't want to sell a kidney to get one, something like this should be fine.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/TRI-MOUNT-N...0593_10101.jcw
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That head unit has a built in crossover FOR THE EXTERNAL AMP. You can NOT send a discrete high and low frequency on ONE speaker output. They have to be separate, that head unit does NOT have separate speaker outs PER CHANNEL. The cross over it has is for EXTERNAL AMPLIFIERS.

Before you question anybody's knowledge you must first learn to read.


Bassblockers/capacitors are used in ALL speakers that SHARE an input terminal for all frequencies. Capacitors keep the low frequencies out so that a tweeter won't have to play a sound that it can NOT reproduce.


This is the crossover of a Paradign speaker, which is nowhere near ghetto

Notice the coil and the CAPACITOR? Bassblockers ARE CAPACITORS. Get that through your hollow head.


You are obviously WRONG.


I suggest you pick up a "Loud speakers for dummies" book before you go jumping into message boards and thinking you're Einstein and questioning people's knowledge.
No, but with DSP chips, you can block out certain frequencies you don't want sent out.

I never denied bassblockers were capacitors, I just don't like using them if I don't have to. That is my opinion, as I mentioned in my previous post. I am deeply sorry if you are easily offended by strangers' comments because of your weak mind.

And how is my own personal motto wrong? That just doesn't make sense.

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