Looking to add a second battery for DVD playback - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums


» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Nation Forums > Audio, Video, and Security - Tech

Audio, Video, and Security - Tech For the electro-techies and the bass heads.

ToyotaNation.com is the premier Toyota Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-30-2008, 06:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
2GR FTW
 
darksparkz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,543
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Lifetime Supreme Member
iTrader Score: 5 reviews
View darksparkz's Photo Gallery
Gen6 Looking to add a second battery for DVD playback

So, I'm planning to put in a Kenwood DNX 8120 soon and want to be able to watch a movie or video with the engine off, it would be on a 2007 Toyota Camry and I have the factory battery in right now. What type of second battery would be good to have to be able to give me about an hour or so of playback? Or would it be easier just to swap the factory battery for a better aftermarket one, ie. an Optima YellowTop or so.

How would I wire the second battery if I do decide to get one and put it in the trunk?
__________________
2007 Toyota Camry SE 2GR-FE
Retrofit TSX HID Projectors | TRD Lowering Springs | Smoked LED Tails | Custom Apexi WS2 Catback Exhaust | BlueBatMobile Eyelids| UR Front Strut Bar | UR 23mm Rear Sway Bar | K&N Short Ram Intake| Kenwood DNX8120 In-dash | Lexus IS350 18" Wheels | Toyota Japan JDM Vent Visors | IS-F Black Leather Shift Knob

Other cars: F20C (AP1) | 2JZ-GE (JCE10)

darksparkz is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-01-2008, 04:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
Avarollin?
 
Jigg007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Island Lake, Illinois
Posts: 572
Gameroom cash: $132050
Thanks: 2
Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Jigg007's Photo Gallery
If all you're looking to do is run a DVD dash, not boomin it up or anything an Optima Yellow top, or any similar deepcycle battery should do the trick nicely.
You should really be looking at a deepcycle battery. As they are designed for a constant draw. Plus you can run a deepcycle into the ground and it will still take a charge. Starter batteries provide higher cranking amps, but the Yellow top for instance has CCA of 650, which is more than fine for a car.

Most, if not all batteries have an AH rating, which means Amp hours. A battery with a ratting of 55 aH means it can put out 55amps continuously for one hour, or 1 amp for 55 hours before hitting a voltage (10.8V? I'm not exactly sure) Of course if you like math you can figure out how long it will last at any load you want.

Some batteries provide a "RC" rating- Which stands for reserve capacity in minutes, which states how long it can output 25 amps until the voltage is around 10.8V, (again with the 10.8V)

I think a single, 55aH or higher deepcycle should do the trick for you.
DVD playback on a radio, even with the radio cranked will not even touch 20 amps. Even with a nice system setup, at a moderate volume for one hour, you would still be fine.

If you wanted to tack on a second battery, I would recommend the batteries being matched. The biggest thing with a second battery is for it to be vented. As with any lead acid battery, when they charge or discharge they emit fumes which can be explosive. (remember when jumping a car you always attach the dead car first? )
Second would be isolation. Its not really important, if the batteries are matched spec then you can just tie them into each other.

However you can do several things here:

Battery isolator / diode block- Think of it as a Y-Pipe and two check valves. Diodes only let flow in one direction, the alternator charge two batteries, but the two batteries could never discharge into each other.
~The advantage is you can run OEM/starter equipment on one battery of your liking, and all your stereo and aftermarket stuff on the second battery. No mater what you do with the second battery, your car will always start.
~The main disadvantage here is didoes drop 0.7V, so your maximum charging voltage will be whatever it is (14.4V) minus 0.7V. Plus they are fairly bulky.

Battery Relay. This is merely a big honkin relay that you can decide when to isolate two batteries. You can tie it to a manual switch, wire it into the ignition system, turn on wire, whatever you like to make it turn on. You can achieve the same thing as isolator, just may be more involved, depending on ones ability.
~ The advantage here is mainly there is no voltage drop, unlike the isolator. (Also because of no voltage drop, it generates no heat and is smaller)
~ Disadvantage, when engaged you can discharge both batteries with your load. (However you can use both batteries when it is turned on)
__________________

Click that cool picture above for my cardomain!

Last edited by Jigg007; 12-01-2008 at 04:44 PM.
Jigg007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2008, 06:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
2GR FTW
 
darksparkz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,543
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Lifetime Supreme Member
iTrader Score: 5 reviews
View darksparkz's Photo Gallery
Yeah, I was thinking of just doing it simple and running a YellowTop or other deep cycle battery, and since the reserve capacity may be around an hour or so of video, that should be plenty, and I can start the car every half around or so to charge up the battery a little bit just in case.

Yeah, I have heard that it works best when both batteries are identical, of brand and age at least, but then that'd be buying two YellowTop's and a battery isolator, which would all run a total of $500, not exactly necessary for just a simple in-dash DVD player to run a movie for now, maybe eventually when I upgrade to better speakers with an amp and such. But yeah, thanks for the help!
__________________
2007 Toyota Camry SE 2GR-FE
Retrofit TSX HID Projectors | TRD Lowering Springs | Smoked LED Tails | Custom Apexi WS2 Catback Exhaust | BlueBatMobile Eyelids| UR Front Strut Bar | UR 23mm Rear Sway Bar | K&N Short Ram Intake| Kenwood DNX8120 In-dash | Lexus IS350 18" Wheels | Toyota Japan JDM Vent Visors | IS-F Black Leather Shift Knob

Other cars: F20C (AP1) | 2JZ-GE (JCE10)

darksparkz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2008, 09:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
Avarollin?
 
Jigg007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Island Lake, Illinois
Posts: 572
Gameroom cash: $132050
Thanks: 2
Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Jigg007's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by darksparkz View Post
Yeah, I was thinking of just doing it simple and running a YellowTop or other deep cycle battery, and since the reserve capacity may be around an hour or so of video, that should be plenty, and I can start the car every half around or so to charge up the battery a little bit just in case.

Yeah, I have heard that it works best when both batteries are identical, of brand and age at least, but then that'd be buying two YellowTop's and a battery isolator, which would all run a total of $500, not exactly necessary for just a simple in-dash DVD player to run a movie for now, maybe eventually when I upgrade to better speakers with an amp and such. But yeah, thanks for the help!
Not a problem. If you used a battery isolater you could keep your current battery for starting the car. And pickup one Yellow Top to run all your stereo equipment off.
__________________

Click that cool picture above for my cardomain!
Jigg007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Nation Forums > Audio, Video, and Security - Tech

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:20 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
ToyotaNation.com is an independent Toyota/Lexus enthusiast website. ToyotaNation.com is not sponsored by or in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. The Toyota, Lexus and Scion names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.