I finally got around to replacing the front stock speakers in my 2000 Toyota Camry (non premium sound system). I've already upgraded my head unit, and got subs in the trunk...all powered by JL audio 300/4 and 500.1. It sounded nice but I felt like my vocals and highs could be a bit clearer by replacing the front stocks. Oh, I had also added some cheapo $20 tweeters to my setup.
Well, I took the plunge and after a bit of research, decided to go with the Infinity 6020cs components (http://www.crutchfield.com/ISEO-rgbt...ce-6020cs.html). It took me four hours to install on one door and when I was done, omg, like...wow...my stock speakers sounded better than the infinities. How is that possible?
Did I just pick the wrong speakers, are the stocks that awesome, or is there a remote possibility I need to adjust something in my install (I am pretty sure I did it right).
Any advice guys?
Thanks.
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Th 6020CS Components are awesome. I had a set in my last car.
I read your post a couple times, and it sounds like there is no amp powering those speakers. Without an amp, they will sound like ass. Your aftermarket headunit can only put out roughly 1/5th the power the speakers are rated for, whereas it was likely putting out a bit more than the stock speakers were rated for.
Also, are you sure you installed the crossover and Infinity tweeters properly? The crossover will cut all high frequencies from the woofer below 3000Hz, which would cut out most vocals/highs if the tweeter is not hooked up properly.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear before, but my front and back speakers are running on a 4 channel JL audio 300.4 amplifier. I double checked my crossover wiring and all looks well. I mean, the speakers sound ok, but they aren't as loud/clear as my stocks. I figured they should outshine them. *shrugs*
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I ran wires from the amp to the crossover, then from the crossover out to the speaker and tweeter. I think the polarity is correct. How would I be able to listen and know if it was out of phase?
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its all about how it sounds for you, so if you don't like how these sound, return them and try a new pair. Sounds like everything is set up right. You could also try playing with the built in eq a bit.
its all about how it sounds for you, so if you don't like how these sound, return them and try a new pair. Sounds like everything is set up right. You could also try playing with the built in eq a bit.
That's also true...each different model speaker requires different EQ settings. I had installed a headunit in my 05 Corolla that actually made the stock speakers shine with the right EQ settings. When I got a set of components installed in the front and the sub from my old car it sounded like crap until I tweaked the EQ just right. Play with it for a bit and make some adjustments on the amp too.
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1982 Corolla Wagon, 1989 Corolla DX, 1991 Previa LE, 1993 Previa LE,
1993 Pickup, 1994 Corolla DX, 1995 Avalon XL, 1996 Camry XLE, 1998 Avalon XL,
1998 Sienna CE, 1999 Camry XL, 2000 Camry XLE, 2002 Tundra, 2003 Tundra,
2003 ES 300, 2004 Camry XLE, 2005 Tacoma
I ran wires from the amp to the crossover, then from the crossover out to the speaker and tweeter. I think the polarity is correct. How would I be able to listen and know if it was out of phase?
You said you have some $20 tweeters, how did you put those in?
These might be out of your price range, but Arc Audio 6000 are the best component set that I've auditioned. They have buy online feature but the dealer price should be quite a bit less. I bought mine for about $250 from a dealer. http://www.arcaudio.com/productdescr...es/arc6000.asp
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Last edited by touringcamry; 09-27-2009 at 01:49 AM.
I've been looking at my amp settings and am realizing that it could probably be configured better. A few questions:
1. Input signal is set to HIGH. Should it be on low? My head unit has a 4v preamp output.
2. Should I turn off the crossover at the amp since the components have their own crossover? If not, how do I set the levels correctly? There is a 12/24db slope. I am unable to understand what this does.
3. How do I adjust the signal sensitivity? Right now it is turned all the way down.
1. High is for input voltages of 800mV to 8V (according to the manual) so leave that one alone.
2. Turn off the crossover at the amp...it's cutting out all the high frequencies that should be making it to the crossover for the speakers.
3. This requires a digital multimeter. Connect it to the outputs for one of the front speakers (+ and -) and set it to Volts AC. Play a song with good full range sound, and set your head unit to 3/4 full volume. According to the manual, to achieve 75 watts RMS for those front speakers at their 2 ohm load (the amp's maximum) you are looking for an average AC voltage reading of 12.3 volts.
If you don't have a multimeter, set your headunit to 3/4 volume (with only the front speakers on), again with a song with good full range sound, and keep increasing the sensitivity until you hear distortion or start clipping the amp...then back it off a bit.
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1982 Corolla Wagon, 1989 Corolla DX, 1991 Previa LE, 1993 Previa LE,
1993 Pickup, 1994 Corolla DX, 1995 Avalon XL, 1996 Camry XLE, 1998 Avalon XL,
1998 Sienna CE, 1999 Camry XL, 2000 Camry XLE, 2002 Tundra, 2003 Tundra,
2003 ES 300, 2004 Camry XLE, 2005 Tacoma
Any bass boost 'feature' should be disabled if you are using an amp. It severely damages the sine wave of the audio. I remember setting my EQ to pretty neutral settings, but I don't think it was purely flat.
The way I would put it is if you had to choose an EQ setting for all types of music you listen to without ever touching it...that's what you want when you tune the amp. That way you can fine tune it later much better.
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Toyotas in the family/next of kin:
1982 Corolla Wagon, 1989 Corolla DX, 1991 Previa LE, 1993 Previa LE,
1993 Pickup, 1994 Corolla DX, 1995 Avalon XL, 1996 Camry XLE, 1998 Avalon XL,
1998 Sienna CE, 1999 Camry XL, 2000 Camry XLE, 2002 Tundra, 2003 Tundra,
2003 ES 300, 2004 Camry XLE, 2005 Tacoma
Thank you very much for all the advice. I just bought a multimeter and will attempt to tune my amp this weekend, as soon as I figure out how to use the meter
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The AC 200 range should work. You would be looking for a reading of 12.3 volts AC. Double check and make sure you have everything connected properly. Meters usually require the leads be connected to it differently depending on what you are testing. Also, make sure that the red/black leads are connected to the positive/negative output terminals on the amp securely.
Does the meter work (on AC 200) when you test a wall outlet? It is also entirely possible that you got a defective meter. The reviews of the meter mention faulty connections and incorrect readings. $30 is the minimum I would consider spending on a multimeter without getting crap.
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Toyotas in the family/next of kin:
1982 Corolla Wagon, 1989 Corolla DX, 1991 Previa LE, 1993 Previa LE,
1993 Pickup, 1994 Corolla DX, 1995 Avalon XL, 1996 Camry XLE, 1998 Avalon XL,
1998 Sienna CE, 1999 Camry XL, 2000 Camry XLE, 2002 Tundra, 2003 Tundra,
2003 ES 300, 2004 Camry XLE, 2005 Tacoma
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