i'm thinking about getting some small tweeters for my dash or doors...I dont want to get components because I just upgraded my front speakers with Alpines which I like it. Which tweeters would yall recommend? I know they have tweets with in-line crossovers - is there a disadvantage to doing this? Also, how do you wire it to the harness in your radio. does it tape into the wires for the front speakers?
just wire them in parallel (tap the + from the tweeter into the + of the alpine wire, same thing for - ) with your alpine speakers with the wires in the door panel.
i have earthquake tweeters and they sound very nice
ok thats what i guessed - that makes it easy. if i'm only running off radio power, and not running of a 4-channel amp, would you notice a significant difference if i bought cheaper tweeters? i dont need anything way loud
any tweeters would make a positive sound difference. my friend got some cheepo tweeters for $8 and it made his stereo sound clearer and play slightly louder because more sound is directed directly to your ear.
If you run tweeters in parallel with your other speakers you might be running too much power to them and have really loud highs. Also, aiming tweeters directly at your ears isn't the best idea.
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first off, if you just upgraded your speakers to Alpine and like them, go with Alpine tweeters. different companys/brands use different materials. going with the same brand will get you the best matched sound to the tweeters that are part of your speakers now. im gonna assume you spend atleast $80 or more for the speakers, dont get cheap and buy no-name $8 cheapo speakers. your gonna ruin it.
dont connect the tweeters in parallel if your are going to connect them to the deck and run them at a moderate to high volume normally. it isnt good for the on-board amp. it is made to handle 4 ohms, 2ohms (which is what will be present is wired in parallel) is way to low. never hook up speakers in parallel to the deck if they are 4 ohms or less. if you wire them in series, you will be safe, but you also will have less volume because the deck will see a 8ohm load as opposide to the 4ohm load it is designed for. so cut your power output in about half and thats what you will have.
as far as aiming your tweeters, it is always best to have a direct path between the tweeters and ears. sometimes this cant be done, because of bad midrange placement or other restrictions. but because you have coaxils already, you have alot more room to play for mounting. if you go with a set of Alpine tweeters, they should sound almost identical to those you have now, so you will be just rasing the soundstage if you mount them on the top portion of the doors or in the lower A-pillars.
so unless you just want loud sprinkler-sounding highs that dont have much clarity, just volume and ear piercing hissing you can hear 50 feet away. take this stuff into consideration good luck
thanks for all your help amber - the paragraph about the resistance load totally makes sense, but i would have never thought of that. also a very good point about the Alpine system...i was looking at those today. I have all Alpine speakers plus an Alpine headunit, I'd love to stay in the family and keep it uniform. I found some Alpine tweets that should fit well and angle well towards my ears. thanks for the replies
EDIT: How exactly would I run it in series? I understand it means the tweets would have to be on the same line of current as the coaxials, but how do i go about hooking that up? thanks for ur help
thanks for all your help amber - the paragraph about the resistance load totally makes sense, but i would have never thought of that. also a very good point about the Alpine system...i was looking at those today. I have all Alpine speakers plus an Alpine headunit, I'd love to stay in the family and keep it uniform. I found some Alpine tweets that should fit well and angle well towards my ears. thanks for the replies
EDIT: How exactly would I run it in series? I understand it means the tweets would have to be on the same line of current as the coaxials, but how do i go about hooking that up? thanks for ur help
if you want the sound as close as possible, also check to make sure you get tweeters from the same series. different lines sometimes use different materials (silk domes, aluminum, etc. ) which will affect the sound.
honestly, i would just swap out the coaxils with a set of components and just use the single tweeter that comes with them. you will always get better highs from a component system and you wont have to worry about the load the deck is getting.
if you wanna wire them in series, take the positive lead from one speaker and connect it to the negative lead of the tweeter. then with the remaining positive lead from the tweeter and negative lead from the speakers.....connect these to the decks output.
"honestly, i would just swap out the coaxils with a set of components and just use the single tweeter that comes with them. you will always get better highs from a component system and you wont have to worry about the load the deck is getting."
Agreed, If you're not happy with your coaxials then the logical step up would be components, and amp them.
im very happy with my coaxials, in fact its the highs i get from it that makes me want even more through a tweeter - the coaxials havent been in my car long, maybe ill sell them and get the alpine components
if you want the sound as close as possible, also check to make sure you get tweeters from the same series. different lines sometimes use different materials (silk domes, aluminum, etc. ) which will affect the sound.
dont connect the tweeters in parallel if your are going to connect them to the deck and run them at a moderate to high volume normally. it isnt good for the on-board amp. it is made to handle 4 ohms, 2ohms (which is what will be present is wired in parallel) is way to low. never hook up speakers in parallel to the deck if they are 4 ohms or less. if you wire them in series, you will be safe, but you also will have less volume because the deck will see a 8ohm load as opposide to the 4ohm load it is designed for. so cut your power output in about half and thats what you will have.
as far as aiming your tweeters, it is always best to have a direct path between the tweeters and ears. sometimes this cant be done, because of bad midrange placement or other restrictions. but because you have coaxils already, you have alot more room to play for mounting. if you go with a set of Alpine tweeters, they should sound almost identical to those you have now, so you will be just rasing the soundstage if you mount them on the top portion of the doors or in the lower A-pillars.
Um sorry but that's not quite right. Some of the best (DIY) speaker systems are made from combining parts of different brands.
Also, a lot of tweeters, most actually, are 4 ohms. Not sure what loads you would get in parallel or series though. Most tweeters are actually designed to sound best off-axis which is why aiming them directly at you isn't a great idea. Most people suggest aiming the tweeter at the opposite side person's head or the dome light.
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When you add another 4 ohm driver you get an overall 2 ohm load, or 8 ohm but you'll have less output like Amber00dak mentioned.
John, maybe getting a good 2 channel amp will bring out the highs you're looking for.
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Last edited by trdcamry2003; 01-02-2005 at 12:28 AM.
Um sorry but that's not quite right. Some of the best (DIY) speaker systems are made from combining parts of different brands.
only differences that usually sound good are when the speakers and subs are of different brands. i dont know what kinda systems you have heard or have, but if you can show me a SQ system that has some combination like Audiobahn tweeters, Kicker mids,Infinity crossovers along with a Jensen sub that sounds good, i take back everything i said.
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Also, a lot of tweeters, most actually, are 4 ohms. Not sure what loads you would get in parallel or series though. Most tweeters are actually designed to sound best off-axis which is why aiming them directly at you isn't a great idea. Most people suggest aiming the tweeter at the opposite side person's head or the dome light.
you really dont know what your talking about. your saying that most tweeters are 4 ohms yet your not sure what load you will get if wired in series or parallel, do you even know what parallel and series are and how they change the resistance?
aiming tweeters at you is best, im not saying have them mounted at the top of the A-pillar 7" away from your left cheek, but facing the listeners is best. it is also best if you can get the distances between the left and right speakers to the listener as close as possible. same for the mids, this is why most SQ set-ups use kickpanel enclosures for the speakers. it gets the sound directed at the listeners and equalizes the distances between the left and right as best as possible.
yea i've been considering getting a 2-channel...or possibly even a 4-channel to run all my speakers off of. I might end up going that route, and then after i do that i'll decide if i still want tweets. im looking at the Infinity 4-channel (7540A)....im a big fan of infinity sound, and although their amps are not the most powerful, theyre definitely very clean imho
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