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Old 02-28-2005, 09:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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audio suggestions wanted 05 taco

hey guys i have an 05 double cab taco and am about to start my audio project. i want to use an 8" solobaric L7 mounted behind the rear seatback, along with an amp for the stock speaker, which may be replaced in the long run.

please help a noob. i dont know what amp to use with the solobaric, or the stock speakers. i plan on using the stock headunit so i also need a line output converter. should i use just crossovers or a preamp or both?

what is MDF? is it necessary or can i just use plywood for sub box?

any advice is greatly appreciated
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The stock speakers can't handle any more power than they are already getting. So wait until you get new speakers to get an amp for the mids/highs.

For a good quality line output converter check out www.davidnavone.com Get the NE-774V. Run the rear outputs of the LOC for the sub amp. Use the front two outputs for a 2 channel amp to power the front components.

You can also get an amp that has speaker level inputs but you'll probably get better results by using the line output convertor.

Also look into the Clean Sweep from JL instead of a reg. LOC if you want to go advanced with the system.

As far as what amps to get, that depends on your budget. How much do you want to spend on the sub amp? How much are you willing to spend on speakers(components recomended) for the front, and an amp for them? How important are rear speakers to you?

MDF wood is Medium Density Fiberboard, you definitely want to use this when building a box. Plywood is not recomended. Use 3/4" MDF.
Check out this page for some useful info on box building.
http://www.diysubwoofers.org/faq.htm
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cam you are my here LOL. i was hoping youd respond.

anyway, i am willing to spend as much as needed for a reliable high quality amp, up to maybe 250 at the most. i wanted to amplify the 6 stock speakers, since i had done it in my explorer which was my last car. i had it for a year or so without any problems. if i was to amplify i would like to do all 6 stock speakers, or replacement speakers in their locations, though this is definitely not a priority since i dont want to have to buy 4-6 new speakers.

basically what i want is a decent sounding system which is affordable, and reliable. i am not an audiophile that demands perfect everything, but rather someone who likes to listen to music, and to have it sound nice. i like a decent amount of bump, but too much gives me a headache.

so if i were to get an amp for the sub, it would be a 1 channel right? how many ohms and how many watts?

do i need crossovers or a preamp or anything? i like the highs to be crisp and the bass to be clear, not muddy.

basically anything you tell me ill probably do so pleeease help a noob out.

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cam you are my here LOL. i was hoping youd respond.

anyway, i am willing to spend as much as needed for a reliable high quality amp, up to maybe 250 at the most. i wanted to amplify the 6 stock speakers, since i had done it in my explorer which was my last car. i had it for a year or so without any problems. if i was to amplify i would like to do all 6 stock speakers, or replacement speakers in their locations, though this is definitely not a priority since i dont want to have to buy 4-6 new speakers.

basically what i want is a decent sounding system which is affordable, and reliable. i am not an audiophile that demands perfect everything, but rather someone who likes to listen to music, and to have it sound nice. i like a decent amount of bump, but too much gives me a headache.

so if i were to get an amp for the sub, it would be a 1 channel right? how many ohms and how many watts?

do i need crossovers or a preamp or anything? i like the highs to be crisp and the bass to be clear, not muddy.

basically anything you tell me ill probably do so pleeease help a noob out.

nick
Well to be honest I can't recomend any amp for the stock speakers cause it really isn't the way to go. If you really want to make an improvement to the stock stereo then you're going to want to invest in a decent set of components.

250 will buy you a nice amp for the front components. What is your budget for some good front speakers. I emphasize front speakers, because that's what you here most, and that is where the music should come from for proper imaging and soundstage. You don't need to buy 6 replacement speakers. Just the front 4(2 tweeters, 2 midbass)

Do you already have that 8" sub?

What's your budget for everything?
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i dont have the 8" sub yet, what amp should i use with the 8" solobaric?

i think ill just start off with the sub/amp and then save up for front components.

if i were to do just sub/amp and willing to spend up to $250 for the amp, what amp would be my best choice? i dont want to fry my sub and i dont know what kind of amps i can choose from
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That sub can easily handle 500 watts rms. These are decent amps within your budget. It'll fit under the drivers seat too.
http://www.cardomain.com/item/MTX502
http://www.cardomain.com/item/MTX801D With that one you can get a dual 2 ohm sub, and if you decide to go with another sub you can power them both.

Make sure when looking for an amp to match it with the ohm load of the sub. You can get either a dual 2 ohm sub or a dual 4 ohm sub.

Use the subwoofer wiring options link on sound domain to figure out what ohm subs to get.
http://www.cardomain.com/item/KIC04S8L74
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ok, so when i use the wiring diagram it gives me these2 choices for 1 woofer with dual 2ohm voice coils:

-1ohm stable mono
Option 1: Both voice coils wired in parallel. This is the ideal load for many subwoofer mono amplifiers. In the case of a dual 4 ohm subwoofer, this would produce a 2 ohm load.

-2 channel bridged
Option 2: Both voice coils wired in series. This is useful when wiring multiple subwoofers to an amplifier. For example, wiring both coils of a dual 4 ohm subwoofer in series produces an 8 ohm load. Wiring this in parallel with an identically configured subwoofer produces an overal load of 4 ohms - perfect for most bridged two channel amplifiers.

i really dont understand, so what do you think i should do? i want maximum bass out of the L7 without limiting reliabilty. if neccesary i guess i could spend a bit more. which amp fits my profile? i doubt ill be adding any more subs.
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ok, so if i am learning something the mtx thunder 502 bridged at 500watts x 1 @ 4ohms would be my choice.

if so how do i do this?
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http://www.cardomain.com/item/MTX502

That amp will def. get the job done and be very reliable. And it's under your budget.
Get the dual 2 ohm version sub to get a 4 ohm load to the amp.

Wire it like this(option 2)
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On the amp there will be 4 terminals to hook up the speakers. Left pos/neg, right pos/neg. You will use the left channels positive output and the right channels negative output.
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Good reccomendation on the amp. I have a Class D MTX as well....great toy. I might suggest the EBC (remote gain contol) for it as well...good $25 upgrade. My advice would be damn near identical to yours. Actually...that amp in 2 ohm load will never back down..That was why I got one
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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cam, if you were me which amp would you pick??? to me i think maybe the 502 is better since it will push 500x1 when bridged. the 801d will only produce 400x1 at 4 ohms. i really dont know why, but i imagine the 801d is better since its more expensive, but would it really be better in my aplication? so far the 502 sounds great to me

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knailgun wat is the remote gain control and what does it do? do you have a link?
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