MDF alternative??? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums
 

» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Nation Forums > Audio, Video, and Security - Tech

Audio, Video, and Security - Tech For the electro-techies and the bass heads.

ToyotaNation.com is the premier Toyota Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-10-2005, 08:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
nicoj122
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
View nicoj122's Photo Gallery
MDF alternative???

ok so i am about to make the enclosure for my new sub. i called all the wood places around here and none of them have mdf in stock.

apparantly there is a shortage of mdf in puerto rico or something, but the point is i still need to make the enclosure and want to know what the best alternative is...

the guy at one of the wood stores said he carries mdo or medium density overlay. what is the best alternative to mdf if not that. that mdo stuff is expensive. $35 for a 4' x 8' sheet vs. $20 for mdf.

i basically just want to make an temporary enclosure until i am able to get ahold of some mdf, so should i just use plywood, mdo, or what???
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-10-2005, 08:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
Unrecognized
 
DMDrew812's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 212
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View DMDrew812's Photo Gallery
cardboard!
__________________
'94 Camry
Full Alpine Type S system w/CDA-9847 HU & MRV-T420 amp (the amp is for sale ~$100)

Powered by The Cheat
DMDrew812 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2005, 10:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
.
 
cam2Xrunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: southern california
Posts: 9,183
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Supreme Member
iTrader Score: 3 reviews
View cam2Xrunner's Photo Gallery
How thick is the mdo wood? I've never heard of it but if it's as strong as MDF just go with that. Another wood you can look into is birchwood, but it will probably be more expensive.

I'd say hold off for MDF. Have you checked all the available resources? Check some car audio shops, maybe you can buy some scraps, enough to make the box.
__________________


The ratio of people to cake is too big. - Milton
cam2Xrunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2005, 11:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
nicoj122
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
View nicoj122's Photo Gallery
cam, the thing is this is a fairly small island. i called all the lumber yards in the phonebook and could not get any MDF.

the mdo is available in different sizes, including 3/4"

"Medium Density Overlay and High Density Overlay are plywood products with a resin impregnated paper coating. They are often used for exterior painted surfaces. These are not fiber based products. "

from what i gather mdo is a plywood with a fiber and resin outer layer which makes it easier to paint. basically mdo is exterior siding.

i have searched around and have found that the most reccomended alternative to mdf is void free plywood. apparently birch plywood is the best, but can have voids.

all the car audio shops i have seen around here use plywood.

basically i think it would be ridiculous to import MDF, since shipping would cost more than the panel itself, even if cut down. and i think its just too much hassle. i am also not willing to put my install on hold just to wait for the mdf. the difference although maybe noticeable is not significant enough to warrant that. basically i will construct the enclosure out of birch or void-free plywood until i get ahold of some mdf.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2005, 02:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: outside shovelling snow
Posts: 987
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View thoughthard's Photo Gallery
Maybe look for cabinet material. I got some, and it was just MDF with a rounded edge. Worked fine for me smaller enclosures I made.
thoughthard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2005, 03:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
Unrecognized
 
DMDrew812's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 212
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View DMDrew812's Photo Gallery
like particle board? gross... I suppose, its dense enough, but i really dislike working with it. If you dont drill pilot holes just right, the whole segment will crumble. But i guess if at a lack of options, sure. Oh, and not the particle plywood business.
__________________
'94 Camry
Full Alpine Type S system w/CDA-9847 HU & MRV-T420 amp (the amp is for sale ~$100)

Powered by The Cheat
DMDrew812 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2005, 12:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
How Ya Like Me Now?
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,346
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 2 reviews
View Anshu's Photo Gallery
yea dont use cabinet board type stuff, it just doesnt hold well cause its made to stand on holders and just be there.If its just temp go to the local yard and look for something dense
__________________
98 V6 XLE
Dell 5100|SB Extigy|PPI DCX 730|NEXT 4.00|Monitor 2.70|ED Nine.1|LPG 26||Alpine Type R|ED 11ov2's and some other junk
Anshu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2005, 09:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
Luc
One with the force
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: IL
Posts: 1,207
Thanks: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Luc's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMDrew812
cardboard!
Come on now, is this necessary? If you have nothing to offer, don't patronize the question.

nicoj122, birch plywood should be ok. You can even add some deadening material on the walls of the wood by spraying something like Rhino lining.
__________________
1998 Camry LE V6 S/C
2006 RAV4 LTD V6 AWD
Luc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2005, 09:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
poor college student
 
userlain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 1,368
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View userlain's Photo Gallery
Fiberglass.

MDF if the only acceptable enclosure material.
__________________
'91 Camry @ ~162,900 miles
userlain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2005, 10:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: outside shovelling snow
Posts: 987
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View thoughthard's Photo Gallery
HDF works well also.
thoughthard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2005, 08:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: houston tx
Posts: 582
Gameroom cash: $133100
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View profuse007's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by userlain
Fiberglass.

MDF if the only acceptable enclosure material.
fiberglass w/ be ur best bet. you can prolly order that off the net.
__________________
2009 Camry SE || Techstream V.6.0 with Openport 2.0 || TSX 4300K Denso
Houston-TX: need key chip, remote, or body features programming? PM me.
profuse007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2005, 09:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
N/A bites
 
Tercel GTS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Savannah GA
Posts: 4,758
Thanks: 31
Thanked 119 Times in 115 Posts
Lifetime Supreme Member
iTrader Score: 2 reviews
View Tercel GTS's Photo Gallery
We used particle board before MDF existed and set records. Didn't have any problems with it neither. Never use plywood as it will flex.
__________________
雄のハヤブサ

Tercel GTS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2005, 11:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
nicoj122
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
View nicoj122's Photo Gallery
well aint that a bitch. i built my enclosure today out of 3/4" plywood.

its just a temporary until i can get ahold of a sheet of MDF, but who knows how long ill postpone for. anyway its still not done, but almost. just need to install a terminal for the speaker wire and carpet the bastard. i hooked it up to my amp for a quick test and it sounded alright. well see, once i get the mdf enclosure i will compare and let you guys know the difference.

anyway, pics should be coming soon
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 11:33 AM   #14 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: houston tx
Posts: 582
Gameroom cash: $133100
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View profuse007's Photo Gallery
for speaker building supplies, go to www.partsexpress.com
__________________
2009 Camry SE || Techstream V.6.0 with Openport 2.0 || TSX 4300K Denso
Houston-TX: need key chip, remote, or body features programming? PM me.
profuse007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 12:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
deviate from the absolute
 
Knailgun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Schenevus NY
Posts: 4,823
Gameroom cash: $231380
Thanks: 5
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Lifetime Supreme Member
iTrader Score: 37 reviews
View Knailgun's Photo Gallery
fiberglas....the only option other than MDF
__________________

version 4.0 is here http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...56#post3188156
Knailgun is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Nation Forums > Audio, Video, and Security - Tech

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:43 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
ToyotaNation.com is an independent Toyota/Lexus enthusiast website. ToyotaNation.com is not sponsored by or in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. The Toyota, Lexus and Scion names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.