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Old 05-14-2005, 09:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My Next System Install

OK IM ALMOST DONe WITH WHAT IM DOING WITH MY SYSTEM NEXT YEAR. HERES WHAT I GOT SO FAR






-FRONT-



-MIDBASS SPEAKER-

- 2 6 ½ IMAGE DYNAMICS CX62 MIDBASS SPEAKERS.

LINK------ http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSCX62.



-TWEETERS-

-2 IRIDIUM UR1 TWEETERS.

LINK------ http://www.dls.se/english/speakers/ur1.htm



-MIDRANGE SPEAKERS-

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-AMPS-

-1 JL AUDIO 300/2 AMP FOR MIDBASS SPEAKERS

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OK I NEED A CROSSOVER FOR THE MIDBASS SPEAKERS. I ALSO NEED MIDRANGE SPEAKERS. I NEED TO DECIDE ON THE AMPS FOR THE MIDS AND HIGHS.



-LOWS-



-SUBS-

- 2 JL AUDIO 13INCH W7 SUBWOOFERS.



-AMPS-

- 2 JL AUDIO 1000/1 AMPS FOR THE SUBS






-REAR-


-SPEAKERS-

- 1 SET OF IRIDIUM 6.2 COMPONENT SPEAKERS.



-AMPS-

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i also need amps for my rear speakers.




i want to use a IVA-D300 h/u but i need to decide on the processers for all my speakers .i need help badly.

please fill me in with what i need....thanks for all the help

p.s i decided to go with 2 w7's instead of the 3 that i wanted....lol

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Old 05-14-2005, 10:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Chameleons? Not bad, but I think the midbass in the DLS Iridium set will be nicer. I would just stick with the 6.3 Iridiums in the front. I know of a set for 475 plus shipping

2 W7's are going to cause some major cancelation of those rear speakers. You do not need rear speakers in your setup trust me. It sounds like you are willing to build a badass front stage, rear speakers at this point are completely useless, and might interfere with your imaging and staging. Also the cancelation of the W7's are going to cause them to distort anyways. Just leave that back area open to let the bass through.

I'd get the H701 combo since you already have a nice Alpine. It's pretty easy to use and will handle all of the proccessing for sure.

If you want to go with JL amps all the way around it's gonna be pricey, not sure if you're stuck on JL amps, but I think for the money that you're going to drop you can do better.

But to setup this system fully active with JL's you will want to use two 1000/1's, a 300/4 for the tweets and mids and a 300/2 on the front midbass'

You will definitely need to do the big 3, H.O. alternator, probably around 220 amps, I'd go with the biggest Odyssey battery you can get in the engine bay, then get another one in the trunk.

You'll want to run two 0 gauge power wires off the battery, use two fused dstribution bocks to send one 4 gauge power wire to each amp. 4 gauge for each ground.
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Old 05-14-2005, 10:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ok yea i was also thinking of going with the iridium 6.3 in the front. i think i might just go with that in the front but i really want speakers in the back so ill go with the iridium 6.2's in the back. now for the amps i do want jl audio. so what amps from jl audio do i need for the mids mid/bass and tweeters? the subs i got figured out. . im going to mount the 6.2's in the back on the side pillars( dont know the letter of it but look at the pic below)



ill be mounting them there using fiberglass.

i cant wait till i get all of this figured out. ur a really big help cam2xrunner
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You wouldn't be able to fit a mid in that panel, maybe a tweeter but the mid would have to go in the 6x9 opening.

This is what I suggest. Buy your front components and the amps and install and tune them. Then decide after that if you want rear speakers. I really can't understand why you'd spend 400+ dollars on rearfill speakers, when they shouldn't be there in the first place.

The W7 subs are going to cancel out the rear speakers. If you want to use rear speakers you will have to build a sealed baffle so that the air pressure from the two monster JL subs doesn't interfere with the movement of the rear speaker. Also you seem to be into SPL, I gaurentee you you will get better SPL if you leave those speakers out.

I think the main reason why people think they need rear speakers is becasue they haven't experienced a strong front stage. The front speakers don't produce the amount of loudness preffered so they think they need the rear speakers to fill in that lack of output.

Your front speakers will be getting 300 watts rms per side. That is going to be insanely loud. You wouldn't even be able to hear the rear speakers.

Try it without it, then after you've setup everything put in the rear speakers and see how much bass output you will lose and how much distortion there is from the subs.

As for the amps the JL 300/4 will power the tweeters and the dome midrange speakers actively. Meaning one channel of the amp goes to each speaker.

Each channel of the JL 300/2 will power the Midbass in the door.

Each JL 1000/1 will power a sub. So 4 amps in total.

Forget about the rear speakers!!! Open that rear deck out to let the bass flow through.

And buy a ton of raammat or eDead v1.se. Also look into getting some ensolite foam from Rick, or try to get some thicker closed cell foam off ebay.

This is the foam I'm looking for.



3/8" closed cell neoprene foam rubber. Lay that over the deadener to block road noise frequencies that the raammat doesn't block.

Then on top of the raammat on the inside part of the door, lay another layer of closed cell foam over that, to act as a buffer between the door panel and the door.

If you want go more into deadening use a paint on deadener such as eDead v.3 or Second Skin Spectrum on top of the matting before the closed cell foam and also paint the back of door panels and interior panels. Little overkill, but if you don't mind the extra weight it helps.
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^yes mr. cam2xrunner!!!.....lol

ur probably right about the rear speakers since i havent heard a strong front stage. ill see how it goes and yea i can fit a mid range on that panel with some fiberglass. but like i said ill see how it goes. as for insulation i have been reading alot of threads from u and some other sites and i bassicly got it figured out.
later today ill redo my list but just another question-what processers and and eq's do i need to tune everything really nice? i was looking this guys setup and he has alot of eq's in his car. click on the link below.....


http://www.raamaudio.com/fanaticmechanic.htm
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I'm running 1100w memphis to my 13"w7 and it sounds great, and as cam said screw the rears. I'm running one sub in the echo and I couldn't hear mine at all so I sold them. To the mid's and tweet's is an 800w memphis and that to sounds very nice. I'm starting to value speed over sound, so I'm selling my system for Supra parts
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Old 05-15-2005, 02:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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^ how many w7's do u have? just one? is it in a sealed or ported box?
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Rick's setup in his Tacoma was Anolog with dual 31 band eq's. That's one way to go about doing it. You can also use the Behringer DCX2496 they are 250 shipped off ebay but you'll need a power supply for it, due it it running on 120 volt. There is a power supply being made now.

The easiest way would be to go with the Alpine PXA-H700, that will do everything you need it to, and it will match very nicely with your headunit. It has the 31 band Eq's and all the crossover's you need.
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ok i made a pic of what im using.





ok i think this is what im going to use for my system. in the pic theres just the equipment im using. im using a 200 + amp alternator, the big 3, and 1 or 2 extra battery's. where can i buy a 200+ amp alternator
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See if you can get in on this group buy.

http://forum.sounddomain.com/ubb/ult...c;f=5;t=009976

You might not be able to get 200+ amps but anything close to that is ok. Check out Odyssey batteries.
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/auto.htm

For wiring I like to use www.knukonceptz.com

That's going to be one hell of a system. Pricey too
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^hell yea its going to be pricy but thats y im going to start saving up now that way next year i have all the moeny i need....lol

but is everything good with what im going? the eq is fine for controlling everything right?

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also think about it this way by next year all this items prices will go down
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I just have the one, slot ported is what I heard it in and the JL rep. said would sound best. Check out the non-auto for sale section for "car stereo stuff" was trying to keep at least the speakers together, but I'm sure we can figure something out. Would have posted the link, but I don't know how ......hense the cardomain in my tag doesn't work
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