Must Read! Whats Crap Whats Not

[klaymen333]

this is a pretty good list of whats crap and whats not...theres a few things i would move around but it gives a good idea.


www.caraudiocentral.net
(I was unaware caraudiocentral posted this list...i apologize for giving credit to the wrong site)


Newbies Guide to Brand Selection
By AdireRulesForever This topic i guess is somewhat opinionated, but for newbies to the hobby, this would be a good thing to refer to when buying equipment.


I've put this into three sections:


Bad

• American HiFi (Rockwood)
• American Pro
• Audiovox
• Boss
• DHD
• JDL
• Jensen
• Kenwood (speakers)
• Kraco
• Kronik
• LA Sound
• Legacy
• OptimusPlanet Audio
• Power Acoustik
• Profile
• Pyle
• Pyramid
• Rockwood
• Sherwood
• Sony (amplifiers, speakers)
• Sound Storm
• Sparkomatic
• SPL Audio
• Thump
• Ultimate Sounds
• Visonik
• Volfenhag

Moderate

• Alpine (amplifiers and speakers)
• Audiobahn
• Blaupunkt
• Aiwa
• Crunch
• Hifonics
• Hollywood
• Kenwood (amplifiers, head units)
• Lanzar
• Lightning Audio
• MA Audio
• Matsui
• MTX
• Panasonic
• Pioneer (amplifiers and speakers)
• Precision Power (PPI) (newer amps)
• Rockford Fosgate
• Sony (HUs

Recommended

• a/d/s
• Adire
• Alpine (head units, signal processors)
• Altec Lansing
• Alumapro
• Ample Audio
• Arc Audio
• Audio Control
• Audio Development
• Audax
• Boston Acoustics
• Brax
• Butler Audio
• Cerwin Vega
• CD Technologies (CDT)
• Clarion
• Crossfire
• Crystal
• Diamond Audio
• Digital Designs (DD)
• Directed (DEI)
• DynAudio
• Earthquake
• Eaton
• Eclipse (Fujitsu Ten)
• Focal
• Harrison Labs
• Helix
• Illusion
• Image Dynamics
• Infinity
• JBL (amplifiers)
• JL Audio
• JVC Digifine
• Kicker
• Kove
• Lunar
• Luxman
• MB Quart
• McIntosh Laboratories
• Memphis Audio
• MMATS
• Morel
• MTX (amplifiers)
• Nakamichi
• Orion
• OZ Audio
• Phoenix Gold (some models)
• Pioneer Premiere
• Polk Audio
• Precision Power (PPI) (Art & Power series amps, old)
• Rainbow
• Rockford Fosgate (some models)
• Sinfoni
• Soundstream
• USAcoustics
• US Amps
• Xtant
• Zapco

[lucanhookup]

at least what im using is on the recommended list

[JohnCWms27]

i think some of the alpine and mtx speakers deserves to be on the recommended list...not their whole line though

[MrSo0h0o]

this was stolen from caraudiocentral.net... remove or give credit where credit is due or else i need to tell the admins. there is a copyright on it.

[BlueFusion6851]

sticky vote!!

[cdoyle]

Hi,

I am one of the administrators of www.caraudiocentral.net

It has been brought to my attention that the Good/Bad/Ugly list that my fellow Administrators and Moderators have created, may have been copied and being used on another website.

Caraudio911 has no affiliation with us, and does not have our permission to use our list on his site. Could the original poster of this thread (or moderator of this site) please remove the link to that site.

We don’t mind that you have the list in this thread, but please give credit to our site for the creation of it. We have worked very hard on this list for all newbies to Car Audio, and would appreciate being given credit.



Thank You

[klaymen333]

Originally Posted by cdoyle

Hi,

I am one of the administrators of www.caraudiocentral.net

It has been brought to my attention that the Good/Bad/Ugly list that my fellow Administrators and Moderators have created, may have been copied and being used on another website.

Caraudio911 has no affiliation with us, and does not have our permission to use our list on his site. Could the original poster of this thread (or moderator of this site) please remove the link to that site.

We don’t mind that you have the list in this thread, but please give credit to our site for the creation of it. We have worked very hard on this list for all newbies to Car Audio, and would appreciate being given credit.



Thank You

please review and let me know if you want me to change anything else about this post
again i apologize for the confusion

very good list mad props

[cam2Xrunner]

That list is wack anyways

[klaymen333]

enlighten us cam as to what needs tweeking on it

[cdoyle]

Thank You for such a fast response, I really appreciate it. Would you also mind removing the links that say bad/good/recommend

Cam2xRunner, sorry to hear that you feel our list is 'wack'. Why do you feel the list is 'wack', do you know how many times we get posts asking is Pyramid or Sony any good. Before we created the list, almost daily.

We put this list together because myself along with the other admins and mods were once 'newbies' and have experienced the let down of buying cruddy gear. So we want to avoid that happening to others.

[klaymen333]

there are a few things i would move up or down

maybe just create two subclasses in the recommended
one for equipment geared more for SQ
and another for equipment geared for SPL

like when i think of earthquake...i dont think SQ
and when i think of McCintosh....def not SPL

just my 2 cents

[REN69]

Post the link to the original and it will probably be changed to that.

[cam2Xrunner]

Originally Posted by cdoyle

Thank You for such a fast response, I really appreciate it. Would you also mind removing the links that say bad/good/recommend

Cam2xRunner, sorry to hear that you feel our list is 'wack'. Why do you feel the list is 'wack', do you know how many times we get posts asking is Pyramid or Sony any good. Before we created the list, almost daily.

We put this list together because myself along with the other admins and mods were once 'newbies' and have experienced the let down of buying cruddy gear. So we want to avoid that happening to others.

Just some things I would rearrange, for example Audiobahn is nowhere near moderate, Audiobahn is indoor swapmeet junk.

Some of the stuff listed as moderate could fall into the recomended category, and vise versa. And one product from one company on the moderate list could have certain equipment that would by far excel from the lower or midlevel lines of certain companies from the recomended category.

I agree for the most part what is listed, and it is a good tool for newbies, but it's just too general.

It's also missing alot of good companies such as DLS, Genesis, Tru, Vifa, Seas.

It's a good effort but I just think it could be more refined and alot of companies and their line of products added for reference.

Maybe have a breakdown of how different companies are rated at their certain products.
For example: Have a category for amps then classify them as poor, moderate, good, and excellent. And note which line of a companies amps that are recomended.

I know it would take a long time, but there are message boards with people who have tested and tryed alot of different products and it shouldn't be hard to get many people's opinions.

[MrSo0h0o]

if you go to caraudiocentral.net and register(you have to register to see the FAQ's due to people stealing info prior to this also), you will see that the above list isnt the FULL list. of course, no list will ever be perfect. everyone will have their own opinions on different brands and companies. the admins there put a lot of effort into that list and a lot of product testing throughout their car audio careers. if you come check out the forum, you will see right away that these guys are amazingly knowledgable and i have learned so much from them.

[cam2Xrunner]

Here's my opinion.

Bad

* American HiFi (Rockwood)
* American Pro
* Audiovox
* Boss
* DHD
* JDL
* Jensen
* Kenwood (speakers)
* Kraco
* Kronik
* LA Sound
* Legacy
* OptimusPlanet Audio
* Power Acoustik
* Profile
* Pyle
* Pyramid
* Rockwood
* Sherwood
* Sony (amplifiers, speakers)
* Sound Storm
* Sparkomatic
* SPL Audio
* Thump
* Ultimate Sounds
* Visonik
* Volfenhag

I'd add Audiobahn, Cuspid, Phoenix Digital, Kingwood, Koiler. Kenwood Subs should belong in there too.

Moderate

* Alpine (amplifiers and speakers) Type-X components are high end Vifa, F1 Status speaker are Scan Speak Revalators those would fall under recomended and HIGHLY recomended
* Audiobahn Indoor Swapmeet
* Blaupunkt
* Aiwa Aiwa? I'd take a sony headunit over an Aiwa
* Crunch That shouldn't be there, bring that to bad
* Hifonics
* Hollywood [B] bad [/B}
* Kenwood (amplifiers, head units)
* Lanzar
* Lightning Audio More Indoor Swapmeet stuff
* MA Audio
* Matsui Who?
* MTX
* Panasonic
* Pioneer (amplifiers and speakers)
* Precision Power (PPI) (newer amps)
* Rockford Fosgate
* Sony (HUs



Recommended

* a/d/s
* Adire
* Alpine (head units, signal processors)
* Altec Lansing
* Alumapro
* Ample Audio
* Arc Audio
* Audio Control
* Audio Development
* Audax
* Boston Acoustics
* Brax
* Butler Audio
* Cerwin Vega Maybe in the mid 90's for their subs but they shouldn't be on this part of the list
* CD Technologies (CDT)
* Clarion
* Crossfire
* Crystal
* Diamond Audio
* Digital Designs (DD)
* Directed (DEI)
* DynAudio
* Earthquake
* Eaton
* Eclipse (Fujitsu Ten)
* Focal
* Harrison Labs
* Helix
* Illusion
* Image Dynamics
* Infinity Moderate
* JBL (amplifiers)
* JL Audio
* JVC Digifine
* Kicker
* Kove
* Lunar
* Luxman
* MB Quart
* McIntosh Laboratories
* Memphis Audio
* MMATS
* Morel
* MTX (amplifiers)
* Nakamichi
* Orion
* OZ Audio
* Phoenix Gold (some models)
* Pioneer Premiere
* Polk Audio Moderate for the most part, amps are good, speakers are moderate
* Precision Power (PPI) (Art & Power series amps, old)
* Rainbow
* Rockford Fosgate (some models)
* Sinfoni
* Soundstream
* USAcoustics Shouldn't be classified with most of the other stuff in this category
* US Amps
* Xtant
* Zapco

I think this part of the section should be devided into recomended and another section for High End or Audiophile class.

There is alot of companies that aren't listed that could fall into either of these categories.