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Old 07-08-2005, 01:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation recommendations for 10" subs...

well.. at cardomain.com i have an order out for 2 10" Infinity Perfects, only problem is.. that these subs have been on back order for along time, and they have told me that they are not sure when another shipment will be avalible.. they also told me to try and look for some alternative subs or just wait till these come in... i would like something from cardomain.. and around the same specs as the infinity perfects.. any help or opinions would be helpful..
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What's your budget? There's much better stuff out there than Kappa Perfects (they ARE good subs tho...)
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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idk.. like 300 bucks..
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Is it absolutely necessary for you to have a pair of 10"s? Also, what amp will you be using?
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yea.. and it needs to have a CF space of about .66 sealed.. already got the box... for 2 10".. the amp i bought is the Thunder 942 MTX amp.. looks like a great amp to me.. tell me what you think
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I really hope it's not a prefab box...

Either way, a pair of 10" IDQs will sound amazing. Right now, they can be had on Sounddomain for somewhere in the ballpark of about $300 and they sound great in small sealed enclosures.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ID10 v.3
http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSID10V3D2 <- Dual 2 ohm
http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSID10V3D4 <- Dual 4 ohm

$130 each from Cardomain and free shipping. Works in a sealed box 0.4 - 0.8 ft ^3

IDQ10 v.2
http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSIDQ10D2V2 <- Dual 2 ohm
http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSIDQ10D4V2 <- Dual 4 ohm
$160 each. Seal 0.3 - 0.7 ft ^3



With your amp, prolly wire up a dual 2 ohm sub in series to make 4 ohm ohm load for each channel. Each sub will take 250W which is what each channel on your amp puts out at 4 ohms.
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Last two replies are definitely good.

IDQ's will have slightly better sound quality than the ID's

The ID's will get louder than the IDQ's but still have amazing sound quality.

.66 cb ft is perfect for the ID's. I would run them at 470 watts and set the gains carefully. Use the Dual 4 ohm subs and bridge the amp.


Here's a cheaper setup to look at as well. The older Soundstream Exact 10" subs. These were/are some of the best SQ subs too.
http://www.millionbuy.com/souexw10.html

80 bucks each
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:05 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'll go ahead and throw the Elemental Designs 11Ov.2 out there as well. They're $175 each with free shipping, but I do believe there are coupon codes available that may bring the price down. IDQs sound great, but honestly, the Ov.2's are simply better sounding -- but also take more power to really get moving (ideally, 400w RMS per) whereas you can feed the IDQs somewhere in the ballpark of about 200~250 and get good results.

In the end, it's up to you!
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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well i acctually did look at the IDQ's but i was turned away by the fact that my amp might be too strong, but in the same sense.. i have no idea how to wire that with my amp and the box i have... i had it built with two terminals, one for each side. But besides that.. im not at all sure how the Dual 2ohms, and Dual 4ohms work, or what ohm they will run at?. I also was lookfing at those elemental designs subs and they look really nice.. that was what i was think ing of doing.. but then it can back to the dual 2ohm dual 4ohm thing.

At the same time.. i have to let cardomain know that i would like to cancel my order for the Infinities.. if i decide to go a different route. After seeing that excursion videos of that elemental design sub (11Ov.2) I was impressed!.. i love the Infinites but if i can get these elemental design ones for nearly the same price.. then hell why not.. my friend has infinities.. so i thought id get some too, but why copy and get the same results if i can up him.. easily..

oo btw.. would my MTX amp be able to push the 11Ov.2 subs.. or is it out of its league in power.. lol just let me know what you guys think. Im not exactly sure when the Infinites will ship out so i have to hurry if i want to change
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Old 07-08-2005, 01:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What's the lowest impendance at which your amp is stable? 1, 2, or 4 ohm?? Tell us this and the wattage ratings at each impedance level. This will help you decide on what voice coil configuration to go with and how to wire it all up.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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ok the Thunder 942 amp has..

235 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
470 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms
940 watts RMS x 1 bridged output at 4 ohms
also says 4-ohm stable in bridged mode
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If you go to Sounddomain and pick any sub there will be a "subwoofer wiring options" Click that and select the different options and see what you get.

Or look at this http://www.jlaudio.com/tutorials/wiring/index.html

If you want to bridge the amp and have it run a 4 ohms then you would get dual 4 ohm subs and wire it like this.


Two 11Ov2's would come out to 315 shipped.

They are very good subs, you'll be very happy with them.
They're made by Image Dynamics

These are Backordered though. So contact them to see how long of a wait there is.
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Old 07-09-2005, 06:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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doesn't ToyotaNation have some kind of forum discount thing too?, could have sworn you talked about it once Cam2X
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http://www.edesignaudio.com/forum_discount.php

There's no forum discount on the subs, but when you buy two you get 10% off.

Remember to check to see how long the wait is.
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