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Old 07-14-2005, 09:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Which one of the two?

Hey i have two amps in mind


Kenwood KAC-X541 4- channel 960 watts max (60 watts RMS per channel) = $999

Pioneer GM-6100F 4-channel (60 watts RMS per channel) = $469

why is there a big price difference?

these are the specs i got..but didn't fully understand them

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Features Highlights
Maximum Output Power: 960W
Built in Parametric EQ Control
AMP Information Display (Voltage, Current, Temprature, Cooling Fan Speed)
Built-in Variable Low-pass/ High-pass Filter
Built-in Infrasonic Filter
Gold Plated Input/Output Terminals
Line Output Terminals (RCA) for Extension
2-Speed Cooling Fan
Detachable Aluminium Dress Plate


General Features
AMP Control System (8 AMPs Max. Connectable & Controllable with '04 Kenwood H/U*)
Built in Parametric EQ Control
Bass Frequency Control (60/ 80/ 100/ 200Hz)
Bass Level Control (-15 to 15dB)
Bass Q Factor Control (1.00/ 1.25/ 1.5/ 2.0)
Treble Frequency Control (10.0k/ 12.5k/ 15.0k/ 17.5kHz)
Treble Level Control (-15 to 15dB)
AMP Information Display (Voltage, Current, Temprature, Cooling Fan Speed)
5L Input for AMP Control Connection (H/U to AMP, with Optional CA-C6SH)
S-video Cable Input/Output Terminals for Amp Control Connection (AMP to AMP)
Variable Input Sensitivity (0.2-5V)
Built-in Variable Low-pass Filter 50-200Hz (24dB/oct) : B-channel
Built-in Variable High-pass Filter 50-200Hz (12dB/oct) : A/B-cahnnel
Built-in Infrasonic Filter 15Hz (24dB/oct) : B-channel
Gold Plated Input/Output Terminals
Line Output Terminals (RCA) for Extension
2-Speed Cooling Fan
Detachable Aluminium Dress Plate
Size: W 446mm x H 61mm x D 259.5mm (W/O Dress Plate)
Maximum Output Power: 960W
Rated Output Power (14.4V)
60W x 4 at 20-20kHz 0.05%THD (4 Ohms)
120W x 4 at 1kHz 0.5%THD (2 Ohms)
240W x 2 at Bridged 1kHz 0.5%THD (4 Ohms)
Rated Output Power (12.0V)
45W x 4 at 20-20kHz 0.05%THD (4 Ohms)
90W x 4 at 1kHz 0.5%THD (2 Ohms)
180W x 2 at Bridged 1kHz 0.5%THD (4 Ohms)
Pioneer

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Maximum Power Output
120 Watts x 4 or 300 Watts x 2 or 120 Watts x 2 + 300 Watts x 1
Maximum power output (EIAJ)

Continuous Power Output - Watts RMS
@ 14.4V (20 ~ 20kHz into 4 ohms) 60W x 4 (0.2%)
(20 ~ 20kHz into 2 ohms) 75W x 4 (0.8%)
Bridged into 4 ohms 150W x 2 (0.8%)
@ 12.0V (20 ~ 20kHz into 4 ohms) 605W x 4 (0.2%)
(20 ~ 20kHz into 2 ohms) 75W x 4 (0.8%)
Bridged into 4 ohms 150W x 2 (0.8%)

CEA2006 Amplifier Ratings
Power Output in Watts RMS @ 14.4 Volts
4 ohms @ < 1 % THD+N 60WRMS x 4
2 ohms @ < 1 % THD+N 75WRMS x 4
Bridged into 4 ohms @ < 1 % THD+N 150WRMS x 2
Signal-to-noise Ratio 80dBA
Dynamic Power 60W @ 4 ohms

Specifications & Features
RCA and Speaker Level Input
Speaker Level Input (0.8V ~ 26Volt)
RCA Input (200mV - 6.5Volt)
LPF (Low Pass Filter) 80Hz, -12dB/oct.
HPF (High Pass Filter) 80Hz, -12dB/oct.
Frequency Response 10 ~ 50,000 Hz (+0db, -1dB)
Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) < 0.01% (10W / 1kHz)
Signal to Noise (S/N) Ratio > 95dB
Load Impedance per channel 2 ohms ~ 8 ohms
Separation (@1Kz): 70dB
Average Current Consumption (4 ohms, 4-Channels Driven): 9.0A
PWM Regulated Power Supply with MOSFET switching
Full Range RCA output
Screw-type power / ground / speaker terminals
High performance balanced isolator circuit
Amplifier Fuse Rating 25 Amps x 2

Amplifier Dimensions
300 x 60 x 327mm
Mass 4.7kg
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Neither.

A much better amp with similar specs would be this: http://edesignaudio.com/product.php?...pid=10&cur=USD

NINe.4 Amplifier Specifications
NINe.4 Amplifier Power Ratings
65 x 4 @ 4 Ohms Stereo
100 x 4 @ 2 Ohms Stereo
150 x 2 @ 4 Ohms Stereo

NINe.4 Amplifier Detailed Specifications
Signal to Noise Ratio
-95dBA
Variable Input Sensitivity
150 mVolt - 7.0V
Remote Variable Input Sensitivity
Yes
Variable Low Pass X-Over
40-240 @12dB
Current & Thermal Protection
Yes
Remote Bass Equalization
No
Variable Phase Control
No
Master / Slave Option
No
Efficiency
68%
Variable SubSonic Filter
N/A
Fuse(s)
2x30
Max Current Draw
49 Amps
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Old 07-17-2005, 07:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Kenwood is the better amp, the specs don't lie. But honestly if you are just using it for speakers and not entering sound competitions, i would go with the pioneer. Just for the price.
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Old 07-18-2005, 12:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Dont know why you would spend that much money on either of those amps, there are MUCH better ones for the same price or less! probably much less
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I agree, even in AUS currency that is way up there for mediocre amps.

I'd rec. joining an Australian Car Audio Forum and look for deals and recomendations from there on what is avialable for good pricing in Australia.
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