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Old 08-17-2005, 07:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, so i am getting my first system and am wondering if this is a good setup that will not starve the subs, and will not underpower the subs..

Car: Toyota SLE Solara 02, v6
-i am going kicker..
Amplifier: KX550.2 AMPLIFIER
(275 x 2 (Watts/Channel), 2 Ohm Stereo
550 (Watts/Channel), 4 Ohm Bridged)
Subs: 2 10"- SOLO-BARIC S10L54 -( does the 4 mean 4 ohm?)
running at i guess 4 ohms each... so 2 ohm amp..
(Recommended RMS Power: 450W each)

Box: will be ported..

does this system look correct?
much help appreciated :P

btw.. should i get L5's or L7's..?
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That amp will work, however it will only send about 230-240 watts rms to each sub. Those subs like to see closer to 500 watts rms each.

Are you open to other suggestions?

Are your goals strictly SPL, or would you like it to sound good too(accurate)
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i want it to sound good, but i do not want to buy a system that is underpowered...
so should i go for a stronger amp... ? and which kind...

i pretty much have anything i can buy.. but i want 2 10" somethings... and i want a good amp. so you tell me..
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Well the Kicker subs are known for getting loud, but there are plenty of subs that will get just as loud and sound much nicer, and more accurate.

I would go with a sealed enclosure and use 2 12"s. 10's are cool, but if you can fit the bigger sub, go with a bigger sub.

Are you willing to upgrade your alternator, and battery to handle 1k+ watts rms?
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no, i do not want to upgrade my alternator, or mess with the battery... i would like to get L5 or L7's because i have heard most of them, and like what they sound like. What amp is best for the setup i have choose.. I also am getting 10's because i know that 12s would murder my inner speakers..
please lead me to a amp that will power those 2 subs...
will a (KX850.2)amp power it well enough?

KX850.2-
295 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
425 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms
850 watts RMS x 1 in bridged mode
stereo or bridged mono output
4-ohm stable in bridged mode

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Well if you want effiecieny and enough power for two of those subs, you'd be best off with a class D amp. Class AB two channels such as the first one you linked are good for better sound quality, but they are not as efficient as a Class D.

If you want to go with Kicker amps, you'll want to look at the SX1250.1 or the KX1200.1 for those particular subs.

For any other options, that depends on how much you want to spend(which I have no idea)

Are you dead set on Kicker subs? You say you don't want your subs to Murder(drown out I figure) your speakers. So to me it sounds like you are more concernced with how the subs sound. And not about getting crazy loud.


If this is the case I would rec. looking elsewhere and get some subs that have better sound quality.
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no, i do not want to upgrade my alternator, or mess with the battery... i would like to get L5 or L7's because i have heard most of them, and like what they sound like. What amp is best for the setup i have choose.. I also am getting 10's because i know that 12s would murder my inner speakers..
please lead me to a amp that will power those 2 subs...
will a (KX850.2)amp power it well enough?

KX850.2-
295 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
425 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms
850 watts RMS x 1 in bridged mode
stereo or bridged mono output
4-ohm stable in bridged mode
Yes that amp will work good too.
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Ok, so tell me... What kind of subs and amp would you tell me to get... in my case.. something sounding Amazing yet, has a punch and will not drain my car to hell and set my bill up way too high.
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These aren't going to sound familiar, and that is because they are not mainstream subs. But I can guarentee you they will be more accurate and acually sound better.

For subs, SQ wise, the Peerless XLS and XXLS are very nice. Pretty much the same sub as what German Audiophile company Genesis uses.

Also the TC Sounds TC2+ or the Soundsplinter Rl-i(pretty much the same sub, but only offered in 8,10" variants)

The TC Sounds TC9 (aka Soundsplinter Rl-P) are very nice subs that will take more power than the tc2+ and get louder.

The Image Dynamics IDMAX is a personal favorite, but pricey at 400+ a sub.

The Image Dynamics ID10V3 and IDQ are good SQ subs that work well off low power and in a small sealed enclosure.

The Soundstream Exact 10" subs at Millionbuy are good and only 79 bucks each.

Adire and RE Audio make great subs.

Oz Audio Matrix Elite is nice.


There's alot of other choices, but for the money, the Soundstream Exact 10"s are going to be very hard to beat. 79 bucks each. Very good SQ.

If you don't mind spending a little bit more, I would definitely get the Soundsplinter Rl-I

http://www.soundsplinter.com/rli_ser...formation.html

Then get a nice Class AB amp that will do about 700-800 watts rms.

The KX850.2 will do fine if you like that amp. You will have to turn the gains down a bit, but that's fine, you won't be driving the amp as hard.

If you'd like some other rec's on amps let me know your budget.

Oh and if you decide to go with the SS Exacts you'll need an amp that does 700 - 800 watts rms @ 2 ohms. (Class D, or an exspensive Class AB such as the DLS A6-400 bucks)
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personally, I am surprised no one here suggested a class D mono amp.....you can use one of these for the install and you can pump more power more efficently for the subs....MTX makes some really clean ones
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Well if you want effiecieny and enough power for two of those subs, you'd be best off with a class D amp. Class AB two channels such as the first one you linked are good for better sound quality, but they are not as efficient as a Class D.
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personally, I am surprised no one here suggested a class D mono amp.....you can use one of these for the install and you can pump more power more efficently for the subs....MTX makes some really clean ones
Read before you speak.


Hehe, just playin' man. But yes, Class D will give you around 70% electrical efficiency and not take up a huge footprint.

Imagine tryin' to fit this class A beast into your ride:





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ok, so what would work with these 2 10" 4 ohms subs, like which class d amp...

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Alot of amps. What do you want to spend? Have you decided to use the Kickers? Or do you want a better sounding sub?
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Ahhh...but no one specifically recccomended a Class D amp, it was just stated to use the Class D amps in general.

Anyway, why not look around yourself and find something you like and report back with some findings. Do a Class D/Mono Amp search on google. Cheak out a car audio vendor site, find something with the appropriate power, and make sure its a quality amp before you buy. Not real difficult. Actually, its enjoyable. Thats what I spend a good portion of my work day doing.
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I mentioned the two kicker class D's , since that's what he's interested in.


If you don't mind buying refurbed, there are some great deals on www.Ikesound.com on some refurbed Directed, and Viper Class D mono amps, about 150 plus shipping. Get's the job done.
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