Which set of coaxials do you think are better?

[LiquidClen]

The JL Audio VR series

or

The Kicker KS series.

Currently I have Kicker KS 6.5's and 6x9's in my truck, but what thinking maybe about upgrading. What are some good speakers that I could get for around $300 for the 4 of them?

[TeXaScHaMp]

CDT speakers

[cam2Xrunner]

If your budget is 300 bucks, you should be looking at a set of components for the front doors and an amp for them.

Compare these two options at your local shop/circuit city then buy online for less than 200 bucks.

JL XR 6.5" components, Alpine Type-X SPX-177R 6.5" components.

This leaves you with 100 bucks. You can find plenty of 75 watts rms x 2 amps for that money. Then you'll need to spend another 30 bucks or so for an 8 gauge amp install kit.

Search the for sale section for a post by Frito, he's got some Stinger stuff very cheap.

Look for a new PG Tantrum amp off Ebay or an XS series amp. There's a bunch of other brands to choose from, but these are all reliable good sounding choices.

Also check out the for sale section on www.elitecaraudio.com maybe post a WTB ad. I've had VERy good results when I post a WTB ad over there.

[sq_camry]

whatever you do, dont buy the alpine amps

[ScionGirl]

I was looking at the Infinity Kappa Series componets but I dont want to install them.... lol

[[SMAN]]

I just tossed a set of infinity kappa perfects into my camry. The install was pretty easy, except that the crossovers are massivly huge. But yeah components make a world of difference, and i used to have all kicker KS coxails as well.

[Type699]

I bought the Alpine Type-R 6.75" coax speakers, and I am very happy with them. I am running a 80w x 4 amp bridged to them, so they are getting 320 watts each.

Can't have too much power. They sound great in my Camry.

I also tried the $100 Infinitys and the Type-X and Type-S Alpines. I thought the Type-R's were a good deal for the price. I was able to try all of them in my car, mounted in the doors. Listening to them in a demo board is a waste of time.

I also tried the Kickers. Not quite sure which ones they were, but the were in the $100 for the pair range.

My opinions were that the Infinitys were thin sounding in the midrange and very, very, very, bright. Very accurate though, and seemed to handle more power and have a little more bass than the other ones I tried out.

The Kickers were just there. They were OK, but nothing special. They remind me of Boston Acoustics. Kind of "muted" sounding, subdued. I thought they were on par with the Alpine Type-S speakers..

The Alpine was my choice out of all of them. They had an open box set of the Type-R's for the same price as the Type-S's, so I ended up with those. I really liked the Type-S's, not too bright, very musical, excellent budget speaker. Sounded great to me. The Type-R is just a little better. More detailed. The Type-X's were my overall favorite, I know why a lot of people rave about them, but the budget didn't allow for the X's.

I also see that Alpine makes some add-on tweeters, plus it's very easy to disconnect the tweeters in the coaxes if I wanted to make my own component set in the future.

[LiquidClen]

I already have an amp. A JL Audio 300.4

I need a pair of 6.5's and 6x9's soooo im still in need of help

[cam2Xrunner]

Oh cool, you got an amp.

Well by replacing your coaxials with another set of coaxials you are going to be wasting your time. Trust me on this one, use that money you have for a good set of front components, and some deadening material for the front doors.

Take a listen to the JL XR and the Alpine Type-X components, both are about 200 bucks, then use the rest of the money for a roll of raammat.


I don't even run rear speakers at all.

I would bridge the JL amp you have for the front components, or bi-wire the front components using all 4 channels of the 300/4. Rear fill coaxials will work fine off deck power, and you already have a set of Kickers for rear fill, so I'd suggest not spending more money on a set of coaxials. It's kind of like throwing money away.

[LiquidClen]

why dont you run rear speakers??

Why are components better than coaxials? what are the differences between the two?

[cam2Xrunner]

Originally Posted by LiquidClen

why dont you run rear speakers??

Because you don't need them if you have a good set of component speakers up front and plenty of power going to them. But it does come down to personal preference. Most people think they need rear speakers to achieve the loudness they want. But the thing is, most people have not set up a properly powered and tuned front component system.

Get a good set of component speakers for the front doors and power them using all 4 channels of your JL amp, and you'll understand why I don't run rear speakers.

Why are components better than coaxials? what are the differences between the two?

A coaxial speaker is what you have, where the tweeter is built into the speaker. It's placed in the middle of the speaker. The built in crossover that seperates the frequencies is very small(most cases you don't even see it) This is the first drawback. The size of this small crossover is going to limit you to how much power the speaker will handle. Now you might be thinking that you've seen some pretty high wattage rated coaxials, but that's max wattage, not rms. Max means nothing. Another drawback is the placement of the tweeter.

If you are to mount this coaxial speaker in your front doors, then the tweeter is going to be facing your shins. or your knees. Not so good.

Now a component speaker system consists of a seperate midwoofer. A tweeter. And a large passive crossover.

This is a component speaker system.



From the Sounddomain site:
Component speakers are sold as a set that usually includes four individual speakers (two woofers and two tweeters) with crossovers; all as separate components which can be mounted creatively to achieve the most accurate sound possible. Component speakers cost a bit more than full-range speakers and they're a little more work to install because you'll need to do more than simply replace the factory speakers. The upside is that component speakers provide greater musical detail and clarity compared to most full range speakers.
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A component speaker system is going to have better midbass, as well as better highs due to the higher quality crossover system, and the fact that you can position the tweeter to your liking.

[LiquidClen]

Do you recommend me getting a component system? If so would you recommend the JL ZR series?

[ShowCarTercel]

Sometimes you need rear speakers for those crazy friends in the back seat that think they should be able to hear the music while you and your girlfriend talk in the front seat.

But they don't need good sound, I have a pair of really old Sony's just sitting there to fill the holes. Really old Sony's, like pre-Xpod old Sony.

[OptimusP99]

If you are looking for sound quality then get component speakers. I would recommend CDT as well as they are very reasonably priced for the quality you get.

Coaxials are good because you have the tweeter and the midbass speaker in one unit. Most of the time for component speakers you will have to mount the tweeter and midbass in two places

[mauibuilt59]

I think that Focal Polyglass and Kevlars are among the best sounding speakers. I also really like the Alpine Type-X and the F-1 status components. Diamond Audio 6 series and Hex series, and MB Quart P's and Q's are also excellent speakers.