In this post, the author states that the new Tundra is damaging Toyota's reputation for quality, and that this will have long-term negative effects on Toyota going forward. A provocative viewpoint...
No offense, this so called "article" is merely an opinion, and can hardly say such a "blog" is unbiased. True that this new Tundra launch didn't go without a hitch (no pun intended), but that's the price to pay when there're risks involved, much like the stock market or gambling in the casino. The main thing is Toyota can afford to take a big hit or two, as if they haven't before. It's an expensive lesson learned, and surely this will help them improve on succeeding generations of trucks in the coming years. And who from Toyota said they're taking this domestic-truck-market-game lightly? Seems like this "blogger" is putting words into people's mouth, probably just to get his opinions acrossed.
There goes my 10 minutes writing that crap above in response to this blog. At the end of the day it's very simple: if you don't like the truck, don't buy it. There're plenty of competing trucks you can waste you money on. And last but not least, is it not commendable that Toyota is proactively replacing engines to the ones who had camshaft failures, even though it's the supplier's fault but Toyota had no choice but to be responsible for? What else do you expect Toyota to do? Keep it quiet, blame the customers for the camshafts snapping, and not do anything about it until more problems arise to the point where one can no longer hide such defects?
Seems like anyone can be a professional journalist nowadays
Gotta love it. Let me get this right. 20 or so engines out of 30,000 plus and now Toyota is gonna fall down to where Ford, Chevy, Dodge are?? Don't think so. I'll still only buy Toyota's. There #1 in the world for a reason. This is just another futile attempt to try and drag them through the mud. Funny thing is though it will never work. Instead of the other markets trying to bring Toyota down to them, why don't they make a better product and come up to Toyota's level. Maybe one day they see the light.
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No offense, this so called "article" is merely an opinion, and can hardly say such a "blog" is unbiased. True that this new Tundra launch didn't go without a hitch (no pun intended), but that's the price to pay when there're risks involved, much like the stock market or gambling in the casino. The main thing is Toyota can afford to take a big hit or two, as if they haven't before. It's an expensive lesson learned, and surely this will help them improve on succeeding generations of trucks in the coming years. And who from Toyota said they're taking this domestic-truck-market-game lightly? Seems like this "blogger" is putting words into people's mouth, probably just to get his opinions acrossed.
There goes my 10 minutes writing that crap above in response to this blog. At the end of the day it's very simple: if you don't like the truck, don't buy it. There're plenty of competing trucks you can waste you money on. And last but not least, is it not commendable that Toyota is proactively replacing engines to the ones who had camshaft failures, even though it's the supplier's fault but Toyota had no choice but to be responsible for? What else do you expect Toyota to do? Keep it quiet, blame the customers for the camshafts snapping, and not do anything about it until more problems arise to the point where one can no longer hide such defects?
Seems like anyone can be a professional journalist nowadays
Patrick Hoey is one of our writers, and yes, it's his point of view regarding the situation with the Tundra, which BTW, I think is interesting, although provocative. From a site perspective, we don't have any bias towards one make or another, but from an individual writer perspective, sure, the writers all have their likes and dislikes. They're humans, so it kind of goes with the territory.
I have one writer (Bruce McCulloch) who is a rabid, all-out Toyota and Lexus fan, as well as a supercar fanatic. Those are his two loves - the products of Toyota Motor Corporation and very expensive supercars. He hasn't written anything on Toyota lately, as he's been doing lots of supercar stuff.
I am always looking for more contributors to Autosavant in terms of writers with different interests - if you (or someone you know) would like to write for us, and carry the Toyota flag, I'd be happy to discuss that possibility with you. You just have to be able to write well, and in an entertaining manner, know your subject matter, etc.
Back to the post - Toyota's a great company, and they'll get the engine issue with the Tundra resolved soon enough. Toyota always learns from its mistakes and comes back stronger, it seems, and I'm sure this instance will be no different. They're not going to abandon the full-size truck segment because of this setback.
Patrick Hoey is one of our writers, and yes, it's his point of view regarding the situation with the Tundra, which BTW, I think is interesting, although provocative. From a site perspective, we don't have any bias towards one make or another, but from an individual writer perspective, sure, the writers all have their likes and dislikes. They're humans, so it kind of goes with the territory.
I have one writer (Bruce McCulloch) who is a rabid, all-out Toyota and Lexus fan, as well as a supercar fanatic. Those are his two loves - the products of Toyota Motor Corporation and very expensive supercars. He hasn't written anything on Toyota lately, as he's been doing lots of supercar stuff.
I am always looking for more contributors to Autosavant in terms of writers with different interests - if you (or someone you know) would like to write for us, and carry the Toyota flag, I'd be happy to discuss that possibility with you. You just have to be able to write well, and in an entertaining manner, know your subject matter, etc.
Back to the post - Toyota's a great company, and they'll get the engine issue with the Tundra resolved soon enough. Toyota always learns from its mistakes and comes back stronger, it seems, and I'm sure this instance will be no different. They're not going to abandon the full-size truck segment because of this setback.
Sensible response, Brendan Please forgive my tone in my post as it might have sounded like I'm pissed off, although I wasn't but I was trying to sound like it to be provocative as well Thanks for the offer (regarding being a journalist) but it's safe to say there're many more who're much more qualified than I am, plus I am biased (in some respects but to a certain extent). I like many different products from many brands so I'm unbiased in that sense, but I do like Toyota since I'm driving one for many years and have grown to trust its products. Hence I'm exercising my fanboyism in a proper manner which is doing it in TN
Two major areas that Toyota is still lacking are its services and supply. Service wise, quite a few would say they didn't have such pleasant time in dealerships during their purchasing processes, whether it be the attitudes of the salemen/managers or the waiting time for their new truck deliveries. In regards to supply, most Tundra owners are seeing a lack of OEM equipment upgrades in terms of performance modification, but that'll improve very soon, albeit still coming up short when compared to the supply potentials of the big-3's. These are just some of the things I've noticed in my observations, but nevertheless Toyota still has A LOT to do to gain marketshare in this difficult truck market. Only time will tell
One thing that is changing about Toyota is all the cash incentives on the new Tundra. Re-sale value suffers from this.
Given their current sales numbers in the segment, and the competitiveness in the segment itself, I don't see how Toyota has much choice in terms of cash incentives. They have to support the truck at the retail level. They cannot afford to concede sales to someone else during the introduction of the new Tunda - to do so would be disasterous further out in terms of consumer perception and also would not go over well with the dealer base. I think they're doing what they have to do.
Even with the current incentives I don't think it will hit the resale value on the Tundra. The name speaks for itself and all there vehicles hold a higher resale value. The incentives given are pale in comparison on what the other truck guys are giving. I've seen 8,000 off in some windows. Trucks in general are hurting slightly right now with the price of gas. Once it subsides I think we will see a new picture.
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Even with the current incentives I don't think it will hit the resale value on the Tundra. The name speaks for itself and all there vehicles hold a higher resale value. The incentives given are pale in comparison on what the other truck guys are giving. I've seen 8,000 off in some windows. Trucks in general are hurting slightly right now with the price of gas. Once it subsides I think we will see a new picture.
Very true and your right Brandon they have to do it to stay competetive but going 8000 off sticker is alot. If someone bought a truck when they first came out for close to sticker and now its 8000 off sticker, that hurt the value of that persons truck.
Personally I'm all for lower prices, I might consider trading mine in one of these days
I personally do not agree with Toyota's "hype" of this product introduction, and it does make them a target when it does not go 100 percent right. The Prius was Toyota's most significant new product introduction, IMO.
You dont move close to a million units a year (Ford and GM) by just hyping towing capacity. How many of us tow 10,000lb? The "domestics" offer a much wider range of models, diesel engines and individual options, not just "packages". To me, a truck is a tool more than a status symbol. That is the real problem, image. Anyway, once Dodge goes out of business Toyota stands to double its market share overnight.
Ford never got the same level of negative press about blowing out sparkplugs from failed cylinder heads and trucks totalled because of cruise control fires as Toyota has with a handful of bad camshafts.
That's because it is so unusual for Toyota to have a "serious" problem. Ford, GMC and Dodge are used to it. Case in point; the new Ford diesel particulate filter problem, where they'd belch flames out the exhaust. Other than a couple of 'net posts, I didn't see to much about it. I never saw any news articles concerning the 5.4L head gasket leaks on the '99 model. It was a big deal, affecting a butt-ton of vehicles. I won't even start on the wiring fires.
My point is, Toyota has impressed me in several ways. One in particular.
My '99 F-150, at 120K miles, needed new Upper and Lower balljoints. $900. Turns out that my problem is not at all uncommon in the 2WD trucks. Any help from Ford? Heck, no.
So, after setting fire to the truck (Don't ask. It's very embarrassing.), I found and bought a used '05 DC. As soon as I got it home from the dealership across the state, I took it to the local dealership to check for any recalls, TSBs or updates.
Turned out I was the first guy to show up for the steering balljoint recall. Toyota had determined that the joints were not providing the service that was engineered into the vehicle, so Toyota decided to change them before they failed. That illustrates to me the difference in philosophy between the companies.
You wanna play in the BIG boy sandbox you will get sand in your eyes - this is all part of the neccessary stuff that toyota has to go through to break out of the current perception of thier trucks in general. Though they are thought of as tough trucks and so on they have never been considered serious work trucks before - becuase they never were before the 07. Now that you have apples to apples to compare, real comparsions can be made - and considering that in like 20 performance points the tundra is equivalent or better than the big 3 that is a huge mouthful right there. Be proud to own such a beast - it will have its' influence on the entire truck market in time, gottat let the dust settle. Think about the impact the tacoma had (and still has) on the compact to mid sized car market - it is the #1 mid sized truck and has been for a while - tundra will rise to it's own level - and an HD and turbo diesel is coming, bet your boots.
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One thing that is changing about Toyota is all the cash incentives on the new Tundra. Re-sale value suffers from this.
The dealership near my house is advertising $3500 off Tundra's or the choice of 0% APR for 60 months. My dad is getting ready to replace his 1996 F-150, so he went to the dealership (adversing the above prices) and they offered him the $3500 cash back AND 0% financing for 60 months on any Tundra they have (he is looking at a crewmax 5.7L).
He is not quite ready to buy a new truck yet (he is just starting to look at all his choices) but at least now the Toyota is starting to offer some decent incentives on a truck that can easily sticker at $40K +. My dad really likes the Tundra, but I have a feeling that he will wait for the 08 model if he chooses to buy one.
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Yeah, my point exactly 
Please forgive my tone in my post as it might have sounded like I'm pissed off, although I wasn't but I was trying to sound like it to be provocative as well 
Thanks for the offer (regarding being a journalist) but it's safe to say there're many more who're much more qualified than I am, plus I am biased (in some respects but to a certain extent). I like many different products from many brands so I'm unbiased in that sense, but I do like Toyota since I'm driving one for many years and have grown to trust its products. Hence I'm exercising my fanboyism in a proper manner which is doing it in TN 
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I knew you'd approve! Honestly the only way that would happen is if my Tundra gets stolen or totalled....I love that truck 
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