Most new tranny's are like that. I don't think the 4.7 has one. It's a bummer, but something you'll see on almost every car in the near future.
I bet Toyota doesn't want people checking it. They'd prefer you bring it to them so they can charge you to do it. Same reason they made changing the oil a hassle.
I bet Toyota doesn't want people checking it. They'd prefer you bring it to them so they can charge you to do it. Same reason they made changing the oil a hassle.
VMax, I have noticed that GM still puts the tranny fluid dips on their trucks, but their new cars (and like I mentioned, other manufactures cars AND trucks) definately don't have them. Supposedly from what I've been told and researched, its to keep the risk of contamination of the fluid low.
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It checks and fills just like a manual tranny, or drive axle, or tranfer case, with a fill plug on the side of the case. As referenced (joke) above, unless it is leaking, there is no reason to check it. It does not burn off, like engine oil.
It checks and fills just like a manual tranny, or drive axle, or tranfer case, with a fill plug on the side of the case. As referenced (joke) above, unless it is leaking, there is no reason to check it. It does not burn off, like engine oil.
OH, I am not too sure about that. My 2000 GMC Sierra never leaked a single drop and after 7 1/2 years and 90K miles, it was about 2 quarts low. Where did it go? Again, it did NOT leak, the bottom of that tranny/pan was clean as a whistle.
It checks and fills just like a manual tranny, or drive axle, or tranfer case, with a fill plug on the side of the case. As referenced (joke) above, unless it is leaking, there is no reason to check it. It does not burn off, like engine oil.
Nikita, you suppose we can check the oil cold like my 5 speed Chev. Never owned an auto, but I remember seeing owners check it while still hot. Not too easy from the underside.
Manual trannys and other gearboxes are checked cold, as is the newer Toyota automatics.
As for the GMC, maybe GM quality control led to a short-filled tranny from the factory new? I went 100,000 miles with a 1993 Chevy (4L60E transmission) and it never needed a drop between changes, done at 36,000 mile intervals. 90k is too long.
Editorial: Why do many people buy in to the 3000 mile engine oil change myth and then ignore the transmission fluid, brake fluid and even engine coolant? Automatics can cost more to repair than engines. Ask me how I know. Answer: Ford E4OD vs 5.0 V8.
Editorial: Why do many people buy in to the 3000 mile engine oil change myth and then ignore the transmission fluid, brake fluid and even engine coolant? Automatics can cost more to repair than engines. Ask me how I know. Answer: Ford E4OD vs 5.0 V8.
Because people are ignorant. All they ever hear is "oil, oil, oil" never transmission fluid or the like. That's why I wish America would help some of the retardism in the US drivers by making a maintenance class mandatory. If they would do this, people would know how to change (or rotate) tires, change engine oil, know when or how often to change tranny, brake, and any other applicable fluids...
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Because people are ignorant. All they ever hear is "oil, oil, oil" never transmission fluid or the like. That's why I wish America would help some of the retardism in the US drivers by making a maintenance class mandatory. If they would do this, people would know how to change (or rotate) tires, change engine oil, know when or how often to change tranny, brake, and any other applicable fluids...
a class wouldnt even be nessicary.
Just by reading your owners manual, you can find ALL this out. never read one that didnt have a recommended maintenance schedule. They oughta teach those who want to know, but require everyone to read the book and sign off on it.
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Manual trannys and other gearboxes are checked cold, as is the newer Toyota automatics.
As for the GMC, maybe GM quality control led to a short-filled tranny from the factory new? I went 100,000 miles with a 1993 Chevy (4L60E transmission) and it never needed a drop between changes, done at 36,000 mile intervals. 90k is too long.
Editorial: Why do many people buy in to the 3000 mile engine oil change myth and then ignore the transmission fluid, brake fluid and even engine coolant? Automatics can cost more to repair than engines. Ask me how I know. Answer: Ford E4OD vs 5.0 V8.
The GMT800's (1999-2006) had long-life 100,000 mile coolant and tranny fluid. My 2007 GMT900 has 150,000 mile coolant and tranny fluid. This is for "normal" duty/use. Since I tow a boat, I will probably cut those mileage recommendations in half. You cannot compare tranny fluid to engine oil when it comes to life. Heat cycles break down oil, trannies run much cooler and are not subjected to the intense combustion temps of an engine. My tranny has an external cooler and never exceeds 175 deg, even when towing in the hot summer temps.
My 2000 was not low from the factory, and your comment regarding QC is purely biased BS. That truck was an awesome truck, still is, my brother is now driving it.
Yes, heat can break down oil. ATF, due mainly to its lower viscosity, is less able to resist heat than engine oil. While yours never exceeds 175F, most of us dont know the temp and GM's own studies show a drastic reduction in transmission life as temps go much above 200F. If you had an engine oil temp gauge, you may find that it is not running much hotter than your trans. My 1993 C1500 had the tow package, which included an engine oil cooler. Changing engine oil five to six times as often as ATF (30,000 vs 5-6000) seems like a reasonable ratio, since ATF does not have to deal with combustion product contamination.
If you think GM long life coolants are the "real deal", google Dexcool.
My comment about GM QC was partly a joke and in reference to things like Dexcool, piston slap and plastic intake manifolds (Vortec engines). My 1993 gave me 100,000 mostly trouble-free miles and I only sold it due to needing a 4x4 and eight-foot bed. Im not a Toyota "homer" just because I post here.
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