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Old 08-15-2007, 12:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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When to accomplish first oil change?

Well, I am the owner of a new 20007 Tundra Crewmax Limited 4x4. Replaced a 2001 Ford F-150 Supercrew which served me faithfully. Was pulled in by Toyota's reputation for quality and that awesome POWER!

Anyhow, questions are when to do the first oil change. The dealer will comp the first one and they also say they would like to do it at 1000 to 1500 mile point. Does this sound right? I, so far, don't find any reference in the manual regards this. Next question; does the Tundra have a special break in oil that I might want to leave in for 5000 miles?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Oh, btw, a friend just called to tell he's coming over with his new Tundra he bought after riding in mine 3 days ago. Must have been impressed.
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Well, everyone has thier opinion on this. I'm all for doing the initial oil change at 1000-1500 miles. I did the DIY writeup right around that mileage, though, I did it early to help fellow TS and TN members out. The Tundra does not have "special oil"...no car/truck does. Some manufacturers do put in synthetic from the factory (Porsche, MB, Corvette), but Toyota does not. They put in 5W20 dino oil.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you don't mind me asking, what price did you pay on your new Limited Tundra? Thanks.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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6 months or 5,000 miles....which ever comes first.

I think changing your oil every 1500 to 2000 miles is excessive. Toyota engines ESPECIALLY in the 2007 Tundra are built extremely well. You'll spend more money on oil (0-20W 7 quarts last time I checked) but overall ownership you'll spend way less!
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you don't mind me asking, what price did you pay on your new Limited Tundra? Thanks.
Which one?? Double cab or Crew Max?? I can give you a general ball park figure if your in the market.
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Anyhow, questions are when to do the first oil change. The dealer will comp the first one and they also say they would like to do it at 1000 to 1500 mile point. Does this sound right? I, so far, don't find any reference in the manual regards this. Next question; does the Tundra have a special break in oil that I might want to leave in for 5000 miles?
That is a dealer thing, not Toyota. They want to accomplish two things. #1, get an "excellent" rating from you on the post-sale survey and #2, get you used to coming to them for all routine survice.

Special break-in oil went away in the 1960's, but why dump perfectly good oil and a filter that soon? Why not wait for the six month or 5000 mile service to take advantage of the freebie?
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That is a dealer thing, not Toyota. They want to accomplish two things. #1, get an "excellent" rating from you on the post-sale survey and #2, get you used to coming to them for all routine survice.

Special break-in oil went away in the 1960's, but why dump perfectly good oil and a filter that soon? Why not wait for the six month or 5000 mile service to take advantage of the freebie?
Thanks for the feedback. The filter is part of the concern since I am wondering how much metal particulate it can handle from a new motor. Hopefully not much is being generated. Just don't have a good frame of reference for this topic.

Also, is Toyota the only supplier of a quality replacement filter for our new Tundra's? If I understood another thread on oil changes correctly it is not the normal screw on filter. So I'm curious.
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Thanks for the feedback. The filter is part of the concern since I am wondering how much metal particulate it can handle from a new motor. Hopefully not much is being generated. Just don't have a good frame of reference for this topic.

Also, is Toyota the only supplier of a quality replacement filter for our new Tundra's? If I understood another thread on oil changes correctly it is not the normal screw on filter. So I'm curious.
As of right now, Toyota is the ONLY manufacturer for the cartridge filter for the 5.7. Wix and Honeywel (aka Fram) aren't far behind in having a filter ready. Remember, this only applies to the 5.7. A 4.7 uses a spin on, so many filters are available. If I had a 4.7, I'd be running K&N HP2009 filters for better filtering and flow...
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The first oil change is done at 750 - 1000 miles to clear the oil of any break in wear and tear from the engine that may be contained in the oil (tiny flakes of metal from the head or combustion chamber etc...) as you really want to avoid that stuff moving through your engine... You also normally want to use regular oil for that as it helps with proper engine break in... After your first oil change then I would go Synthetic for sure...

After that it is normally every 5000 miles. Personally every 3750 or so.
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Cartridge filters have a much bigger surface area, and therefore capacity to hold contaminants, so dont worry. Also, modern engine manufacturing processes just dont leave a lot of junk behind like 40 years ago.
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I really comes down to your comfort level. Toyota says 5000 miles, so as long as you do it before that point and every 6 months, your good to go....

Depending on your driving habits and environment this should vary. I personally am comfortable at chaning every month regardless of mileage. But that is with a older ford... Now that i will have a Tundra of my own in roughly 24 hours. i will do my first change at about 1500 miles . stick with regular grade oil until 5000 miles, then probably go synthetic and change that every 5000 miles.

I also live in Canada and with the cooler temperatures in the winter, more frequent changes are better. there is a larger gap in temperature the engine goes through when it is 0 deg outside up to operating temperature then there is when it is 50 outside.... more condensation too.
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Every month? Youre kidding, right? Yes, synthetic works best in cold winters, but still, even 5000mi/6months is conservative with modern dino oil in a Toyota V-8. These engines are not known for being hard on oil, like the V-6 Camry's were.

There should be zero condensation below freezing becase the air is bone dry. Moisture boils out of the oil anyway, if brought up to full operating temperature. The only time there would be a problem is a truck driven only a couple of miles in cold weather and never used regularly for longer trips, 10 miles or more.
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Yah, for the cost of oil and regular short 3 min trips... i do change the oil very often. filter every second time. i do stick with penzoil. i get it on sale by the case... pretty cheap oil change for $20.

The new one won't be that bad, going to use synthetic and change a couple times a year... likely with the season and trailer towing changes.
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