Has anyone seen the rest of this list? it says the Tundra V8 4x4 is no longer "recomended." i have to assume that they are talking about the 5.7l when they say V8, but is it because of the engine, or the trans? i know theres a problem with some of the tundras as far as the trans goes. Does anyone know how the tundra 2wd with the 5.7 ranks on this list?
BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! Looks like the Big 3 has taken over the media. LOL I rent cars and trucks every month and the Toys are still 10 x's more reliable than the domestics. I have rented a camry the last 3 months and I have so much gear in them that they are weighted down good and run 5000 + a month on them with no problems. I also have one of the new 07 Tundra 4x4's and tow a camper and use it daily with no problem. I'll take a Toy over a domestic anyday.
I never put much faith in any of those testing magazines. They can easily be swayed by money or some sort of false patriatism. I just asked people I know when i get ready to buy something and I have never run into anybody that didn't love their Toyotas.
lol I read your caption Buck. Understandable with the troubles you have had but I still think you got a lemon. I've owed domestics and they just seemed to be in the shop all the time and when I went with Toys, I only saw the shops to do oil changes. I've had a new Durango blow a trans and strand me on the highway and had a Trailblazer screw up and wouldn't go faster than 40 on the interstate still having to drive 2 hours to get back which took over 4. That's why I try and rent the Toys if I can. I know there's troubles with Toys also but I have better luck with them and think they are a better vehicle. just my opinion.
Consumer Reports has always been my bible when making a purchase, but I am not worried about this report. I have not read the full report yet, and it might not be real bad. They have hammered just about all of the vehicle makers in the past, and it has not stopped people from buying them. The tested Tundra could have been a POS, but mine's not, and that's what is important to me. Relax and enjoy your truck.
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I too read CR monthly, and I believe they ARE unbiased on their testing. Sometimes we just don't want to admit when something we have might not be perfect. I'm sure Toyota will use this research to foster more testing on their part. When you look at CR's overall reliability reports for automakers over 10-15yrs, Toyota is always on top. Sure they have some hiccups and some models need more wrinkles ironed out than others, but give me my Toyota over any Chevy, Ford or Dodge anyday.
I never put much faith in any of those testing magazines. They can easily be swayed by money or some sort of false patriatism. I just asked people I know when i get ready to buy something and I have never run into anybody that didn't love their Toyotas.
Hey buckstom, any updates on your Tundra? Have the issues been ironed out yet? Keep us posted
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I too read CR monthly, and I believe they ARE unbiased on their testing. Sometimes we just don't want to admit when something we have might not be perfect. I'm sure Toyota will use this research to foster more testing on their part. When you look at CR's overall reliability reports for automakers over 10-15yrs, Toyota is always on top. Sure they have some hiccups and some models need more wrinkles ironed out than others, but give me my Toyota over any Chevy, Ford or Dodge anyday.
And no one should believe that Toyota's flawless, or any brand for that matter. The only thing people should keep in mind when purchasing/researching vehicles is that, publications such as CR should only be taken as reference, not some sort of bible
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that twatwaffle gives me headaches, so i tend to avoid him.
I believe the Consumer Reports data is based on buyer's comments and satisfaction surveys. When they say they can no longer recommend a brand, they are speaking of automatically recommending a brand. According to what I have read, Consumer Reports had Toyota in a category that because of superior workmanship, Toyota got "grandfathered" as a best buy recommendation. Not so now given the recent problems with the new Camry's tranmission and the Tundra 4X4. Both new vehicles and as well all know, all vehicles in their first year have to have problems ironed out. So don't get defensive and discount a worthwhile magazine. The magazine has worth.
I suspected this could happen when Toyota departed from a proven formula for reliability, simplicity. In their pursuit of big 3 truck market, Toyota has adopted the American market model, horsepower, complex systems and luxury options. When there is less to go wrong, less will go wrong.
I am not surprised by this development, and it vindicates the other truck manufacturers, particularly Nissan whose Titan model was the undeserved recipient of arrows for poor reliability. I believe it remains the more thoughtfully designed truck, with its fully boxed frame, flawless engine and smooth shifting transmission, communicative steering, ride quality and unmatched bed utility system that includes a factory spray-in bedliner, extruded aluminum rails including on the floor of the bed.
I gave a great deal of thought to the Tundra, and was not deterred by the $48,500 price tag for the Crewmax model with gorgeous leather seats, GPS navigation and sunroof. But it has the cheapest painted plastic interior Toyota has used in any vehicle, and with so much complexity and a cavernous interior, I expected it to rattle, and ample reports support that it is by no means a Lexus.
I own two Toyotas currently, a 2005 Tacoma SR5 Access Cab 4x4 TRD and an identically equipped 2008, both with 6 spd manuals. The 2008 carries on the exact same defects that plagued the 2005 including weak leaf springs and squeaky clutch pedal. I'm sorry, but my $0.02 is that Toyota is far worse than the big 3 automakers at correcting deficiencies. I would have absolutely zero expectation that the 2007 Tundra bed bounce will ever be addressed. Just my opinion.
If you ever owned an Audi/VW, BMW, Jag or Mercedes in recent years, you would understand. The BMW set a record for number of times I had to call the Auto Club.
The reason people still buy them is that an Acura or Lexus is too "sterile" and just does not perform the same. I'm not talking hp ratings or number of transmission speeds, but the look and feel of the interior and switchgear, manual shifter and clutch feel and, most important, suspension and brakes. I looked at the IS 250 to replace the 325i and it felt like what a RWD Camry would be if they made one, reliable and boring.
I suspected this could happen when Toyota departed from a proven formula for reliability, simplicity. In their pursuit of big 3 truck market, Toyota has adopted the American market model, horsepower, complex systems and luxury options. When there is less to go wrong, less will go wrong.
I am not surprised by this development, and it vindicates the other truck manufacturers, particularly Nissan whose Titan model was the undeserved recipient of arrows for poor reliability. I believe it remains the more thoughtfully designed truck, with its fully boxed frame, flawless engine and smooth shifting transmission, communicative steering, ride quality and unmatched bed utility system that includes a factory spray-in bedliner, extruded aluminum rails including on the floor of the bed.
I gave a great deal of thought to the Tundra, and was not deterred by the $48,500 price tag for the Crewmax model with gorgeous leather seats, GPS navigation and sunroof. But it has the cheapest painted plastic interior Toyota has used in any vehicle, and with so much complexity and a cavernous interior, I expected it to rattle, and ample reports support that it is by no means a Lexus.
I own two Toyotas currently, a 2005 Tacoma SR5 Access Cab 4x4 TRD and an identically equipped 2008, both with 6 spd manuals. The 2008 carries on the exact same defects that plagued the 2005 including weak leaf springs and squeaky clutch pedal. I'm sorry, but my $0.02 is that Toyota is far worse than the big 3 automakers at correcting deficiencies. I would have absolutely zero expectation that the 2007 Tundra bed bounce will ever be addressed. Just my opinion.
I'll agree...the plastic dash and abundance of other cheap plastic parts used on the inside, thin carpets and seat cloth, AND ...
that Frame sent me running.
I'd bet dollars to donuts they change that joke of a Frame to a (fully) boxed one in the near future...as they should!
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Understandable with the troubles you have had but I still think you got a lemon. I've owed domestics and they just seemed to be in the shop all the time and when I went with Toys, I only saw the shops to do oil changes. I've had a new Durango blow a trans and strand me on the highway and had a Trailblazer screw up and wouldn't go faster than 40 on the interstate still having to drive 2 hours to get back which took over 4. That's why I try and rent the Toys if I can. I know there's troubles with Toys also but I have better luck with them and think they are a better vehicle. just my opinion. 
And no one should believe that Toyota's flawless, or any brand for that matter. The only thing people should keep in mind when purchasing/researching vehicles is that, publications such as CR should only be taken as reference, not some sort of bible 
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