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Old 06-11-2009, 11:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Any mods for better gas milage???

Just wondering if anyone has done any mods to get better gas milage? I have an 07 crew max 4X4 with the 5.7. I would like to get a little better milage.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've heard Volant intakes can give better mileage. I just ordered one, so I'll have it installed next week.
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either remove the tailgate or purchase a tonneau cover. supposedly there is a lot of drag created in the bed
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either remove the tailgate or purchase a tonneau cover. supposedly there is a lot of drag created in the bed
I read a report completed with some government funding that used a wind tunnel to compare those different options, and having the tailgate UP netted the lowest coefficient of drag. From what I remember, the different things they tested were tailgate up, tailgate down, tailgate off, and tailgate replaced with a mesh net. I don't remember them doing a tonneau cover test, though.
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I've heard Volant intakes can give better mileage. I just ordered one, so I'll have it installed next week.
How do you like your Volant air intake? Have you noticed an improvement in gas mileage?
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i noticed using momentum has helped. after some distance it'll cruise to the stop sign, red light. haven't filled up as much
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I have a Volant installed in my2008 Tundra. It is causing the Check engine light to come on. I have had the system reset 3X Dealer says it's the cold air intake system. It didn't improve milage at all. I will go back to the stock system

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How do you like your Volant air intake? Have you noticed an improvement in gas mileage?
I like it. Don't know that there has been a giant increase in mileage, but when you start with such a low mileage it takes a large % increase to be noticeable. I do, however, believe there has been an increase.
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I have a Volant installed in my2008 Tundra. It is causing the Check engine light to come on. I have had the system reset 3X Dealer says it's the cold air intake system. It didn't improve milage at all. I will go back to the stock system
Did you install your MAF backward? Did you get some dust/etc on your MAF sensor? Did you disconnect your battery after the install?
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i noticed using momentum has helped. after some distance it'll cruise to the stop sign, red light. haven't filled up as much
I do the same. When I see a red light I let off the gas and coast toward the light. As soon as it turns green I'm back on the gas and accelerating up to speed. I actually find this to be a faster method of driving on average because the cars that rush right up to the stop light and hit the brakes have to accelerate from a lower speed than me when the light turns green and thus I usually pass them back before they can get up to the speed limit.
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The MAF sensor was installed correctly and cleaned prior to installation. I disconected the battery during the install and left in disconnected for 8 hrs. I put the factory air box and removed the Volanat and no lights both times the battery was disconnected.
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I read a report completed with some government funding that used a wind tunnel to compare those different options, and having the tailgate UP netted the lowest coefficient of drag. From what I remember, the different things they tested were tailgate up, tailgate down, tailgate off, and tailgate replaced with a mesh net. I don't remember them doing a tonneau cover test, though.
I've seen the same or similar report. The best result in the one I read was bed cover/tonneau ON. The absolute worst was tailgate down or removed. Apparently, this allows a huge drag inducing eddy to form in the bed. Seems that at least if the gate is up, that reduces the size of the swirling eddy.

As to the OP's question, here are a couple ideas from a sem-hypermiling hybrid geek. These would be only the general ideas that apply to any vehicle (i.e. not hybrid specific).

1) Inflate the tires to the highest pressure you're OK with. If you believe in placard only, you'll pay for that. In my TCH, placard is 32, sidewall max is 41. I run 40 front and 38 rear. Gives a decent ride, and 1-2 extra mpgs.

2) Get a Scan-Gauge-II and experiment with what produces best results for your car. I've been able to determine that most efficient acceleration in my TCH happens somewhere between 2400-2700 rpms. Below that, the accel takes too long at the higher fuel burn. Above that, the accel is shorter (to a given target speed) in time, but engine is burning way too much gas. If you don't want to spend ~$100 for a SG-II, just limit yourself to 2500 rpms, unless absolutely necessary to go higher.

3) Learn to "glide". Anticipate when you'll need to slow down, and start a little earlier than normal. When you do, modulate the gas pedal and maintain a throttle position right between accelerating and engine braking. At this position, you're not burning significant fuel (yep, in the TCH, the ICE is off and I'm burning no fuel...), and you're not allowing either the brakes or the engine to convert your expensive kinetic energy (speed) into waste heat (either in your brake rotors or cylinders). You converted expensive gasoline (in your case, a lot of it... ) into that kinetic energy -- let it move you down the road instead of throwing it away as heat.

3a) CAVEAT: whatever techniques you might try, remember that SAFETY and consideration for other drivers really has to take priority over saving gas. No point in saving some gas if someone gets dead in the process. . .

4) Minimize the junk in your vehicle. I've got a friend who probably has a half-ton of rotting, leaf encrusted "stuff" in the bed of his pickup (a 20 year old Chevy), and he wonders why he sometimes dips into the single digits. . . Newsflash: it takes more gas to move more weight!

There are others, and they're plastered all over the internet. The above are my favorites, and ironically, they'll work in a non-hybrid too. Our cars do it better, but they're still valid for everyone.
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I have found

That if I modify the angle of the juncture between my foot and shin to 90 degrees or less while the foot is in contact with the go-pedal, mileage on my 09 5.7 Crewmax 4x4 can approach 18 on the highway and just a tad under 16 mixed. The closer this measurement gets to 180 degrees (foot hyperextended, gas pedal almost to the floor), the closer I seem to get to more like 13 or 14 mpg.

Even on its worse day my 09 Tundra Crewmax with a curb weight of 5600 pounds just about matches what I got with my old 4x4 4.7 Dakota Quad Cab under the same conditions.
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I do the same. When I see a red light I let off the gas and coast toward the light. As soon as it turns green I'm back on the gas and accelerating up to speed. I actually find this to be a faster method of driving on average because the cars that rush right up to the stop light and hit the brakes have to accelerate from a lower speed than me when the light turns green and thus I usually pass them back before they can get up to the speed limit.


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either remove the tailgate or purchase a tonneau cover. supposedly there is a lot of drag created in the bed

This was covered on Mythbusters also. Proved that tailgate up is better than down or no gate. Although I would like to see this expanded to test include short bed vs long bed and a with or without a tool box. Tonneau cover vs non. There are alot of different combos that can be covered but for me tailgate up.

EDIT: Oh yeah. You buy a truck with a big engine it's gonna get not so good gas mileage, expect it, and try to keep your foot out of it.

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[quote=RONE;2874191]I like it. Don't know that there has been a giant increase in mileage, but when you start with such a low mileage it takes a large % increase to be noticeable. I do, however, believe there has been an increase.

Hey. I had my Volant CAI installed today. Did your volant come with a foam piece to make it flush, or do you have the slight gap between the CAI and the fender wall? If you did install the foam, do you have a picture so I can see what it is supposed to look like?

Thanks. Andrew
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