Tire Options and Reviews - Page 2 - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums
2nd Generation (2008-2013) Forum dedicated to the discussion of 2nd generation Toyota Highlanders.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
#16 Old 01-02-2013, 12:22 PM
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: virginia
Posts: 212
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by r1-superstar View Post
I'm on my second set of Stones Dueler H/L Alenzas. They are Excellent tires!!! I have towed trailers to and from the race track, drive to the ski resorts, and tread through thick snow and icy roads including heavy rain. These tires offer high mileage and great traction on my 03 Sequoia. I highly recommend them. And they are QUIET.

Oh, and I always get mt tires from Costco...less than $700 installed after coupons.

Costco usually has the best prices, but have never been too impressed with the installers at mine. Always love watching them use the impact wrench ( no torque stick used ) to put them on and ten go back with the torque wrench. I've always been lucky to have a contact who gets me the friends and family discount on parts and labor. The mark up on tires is outrageous. I can usually save around $150 to $200 below Tire Rack and then borrow my buddy's shop to install them. Two of the things I never go cheap on is tires and brakes.

2008 4WD Sport w/Nav
dallen3737 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
#17 Old 01-02-2013, 12:28 PM
Official TN Member
 
r1-superstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UTAH
Posts: 511
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 112
Thanked 76 Times in 56 Posts
Garage
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by dallen3737 View Post
Costco usually has the best prices, but have never been too impressed with the installers at mine. Always love watching them use the impact wrench ( no torque stick used ) to put them on and ten go back with the torque wrench. I've always been lucky to have a contact who gets me the friends and family discount on parts and labor. The mark up on tires is outrageous. I can usually save around $150 to $200 below Tire Rack and then borrow my buddy's shop to install them. Two of the things I never go cheap on is tires and brakes.
What do you think the dealer uses? Costco is strict with their tire installation procedures. The air gun is set to tighten to a certain point. Then the Tire Shop Supervisor or Manager has to manually torque down to spec.
r1-superstar is offline  
#18 Old 01-02-2013, 01:35 PM
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: virginia
Posts: 212
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Last time I went to Costco ( about 5 years ago ) they torqued the lugs on my 2002 Denali to about 175 and broke 2 studs in the process. They also had 4 ounces of weight on one tires and I asked him to break down the tire and spin it 180 degrees and rebalance. That's not a Costco problem, it's a don't give a crap attitude you can run in to anywhere you go.

2008 4WD Sport w/Nav
dallen3737 is offline  
#19 Old 06-25-2013, 10:45 PM
New TN User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 13
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
New OEM Tire Options

Hello! This is my first post here at toyotanation. I've been lurking for awhile and really like our 2011 Highlander Limited. Below are some great options that I didn't see in the original list in the 245/55/19 size.

1. Continental CrossContact LX20 - This tire is highly rated by Consumer Reports, was rated a best buy by Consumers Digest and gets great reviews at tire rack.

2. Continental CrossContact LX Sport - This tire gets great reviews at tire rack.

3. Nitto NT850 Plus CUV - This tire has over 100 positive reviews at tire buyer.

4. Michelin Latitude Tour HP - This has to be new because I haven't seen it listed at tirerack in the 245/55/19 size until today.


I've got 28,000 miles on the Toyo A20s and will probably replace them at the 30,000 mile mark when I get an oil change.

Now I just have to decide between the ones above and the Firestone Destination LE2s!

Last edited by mfogarty5; 06-25-2013 at 10:52 PM.
mfogarty5 is offline  
#20 Old 12-23-2013, 01:29 PM
New TN User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
The Pirelli ATR in 19 was discontinued last year. I just ripped a sidewall and I'm in a tough spot (255/55/19). Such a rare tire and I can't find anything used either.

It doesn't appear anything is left for the 19 inch HL in AT.
vyslouzil is offline  
#21 Old 11-18-2014, 04:06 PM
New TN User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
I decided to post this here, even it was an older thread than a few on the front pages, only because this is the thread linked in the "questions/Problems" sticky thread, and because it has the huge list of tires grouped by type and size on page one.

Super-long post coming...

OK, so we bought our 2008 Base V6 CPO used in 2010 with 44,000 miles on the factory 245/65/17.

The original Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400 werd basically bald in my opinion. Maybe had 2 out of the 10/32 original tread left. At 44,000 miles, they got every last mile out of those 40,000 mile tread tires for sure.

I asked the Toyota dealership to replace them before I would buy it, and they did. I forget exactly what they put on (I want to say they were Cooper, but I didn't see any listed, Dunlop maybe?) but I remember them being a 50,000 mile all-season tire. I didn't like them at all. Sloppy in the snow, hard and noisy. Plus, they were shot at 42,000 miles when I had to replace them at 86,000.

I decided to swap in the spare since it was about 4 years old, so I had them put the best non-spare underneath, and install the three used Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400 I bought off of bestusedtires.com to match the original spare. I got them with 8-9/32 out of the 10/32 they come with new, and the date codes were less than a year old. I didn't really like these tires either. They were quieter than the ones Toyota put on in most conditions, but really noisy on highway concrete for some reason. Even more so than all the other tires when they get louder on concrete. They were also pretty short lived, and total crap in snow. All season, my arse.

I replaced them this past July with only around 34,000 miles on them, which is a little less than the 40,000 mile tread life they should have got, even when you consider a few of them were used. Plus they were damaged easily. I had to plug several of them multiple times after pulling out small nails or screws. Decided not to buy them again. Same goes for the Toyos that other Highlanders had, which seemed to get even worse reviews. Also, I hate the Bridgestone Dueler H/T D684 II (sloppy, hard, noisy, damaged easily too) that are on my Saturn VUE, so those were out too.

After doing some consumer reports research, and reading a ton about tires from Highlander owners (online forums, tire rack, etc.) and looking what was easily available in both the new and used market, I came down to 6 real possibilities, even if I had basically already decided one of them wasn't going to happen. I decided to use the Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400 as the base-line, since I was getting rid of them, and they were fresh in my mind.

The choices were:
Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza
Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia
Continental CrossContact LX20
Goodyear Assurance CS Fuel Max
Michelin Latitude Tour (not the older "HP" version)
Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400

I first started by looking at the retail price (Tirerack at the time), tread life and tread depth and used this info to also figure out the cost per 1,000 miles and the number of miles per 1/32". This would also be helpful to determine what I could expect from a used tire if I bought them again since (for example) 7/32" on one tire could be twice or half as many miles as 7/32" on another tire.

For these tires they were as follows. (I'm an Engineer, did this all in Excel, and still have it of course. NERD!)
Dueler Alenza - 80,000 mi. - $154.00 - $1.93 $/k-mi - 13/32" new - 6,154 mi/32"
Dueler Ecopia - 65,000 mi. - $142.00 - $2.18 $/k-mi - 10/32" new - 6,500 mi/32"
X-contact LX20 - 74,000 mi. - $147.00 - $1.99 $/k-mi - 12/32" new - 6,167 mi/32"
GY CS Fuel Max - 60,000 mi. - $151.00 - $2.52 $/k-mi - 10/32" new - 6,000 mi/32"
Latitude Tour - 72,000 mi. - $185.00 - $2.57 $/k-mi - 12.5/32" new - 5,760 mi/32"
Dueler H/L 400 - 40,000 mi. - $172.00 - $4.30 $/k-mi - 10/32" new - 4,000 mi/32"

These calculations were nice to see, since it showed pretty clearly that the Dueler H/L 400 was not only overpriced, but was not as good as a tire for mileage. Plus, basically everyone with them on a Highlander hated them. It also showed that the Goodyear CS Fuel Max and Michelin Latitude Tour also seemed a bit overpriced. They were generally 25% more expensive per 1,000 miles driven than the other three. I didn't notice that many raving reviews for either one, so they were out unless I got a great deal. I figured they were probably just charging more for the Goodyear or Michelin name at that point anyhow.

That left me with the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza, Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia and the Continental CrossContact LX20. Retail price wise they were all right around $150 each, and I needed four, since I was going to put the best H/L 400 back underneath as the spare again. The Alenzas seemed to get the best reviews, and they had the highest tread life, so that's where I concentrated at first. The Ecopias were a close second in reviews, and the CrossContacts are still pretty new, and not too many people have reviewed tham at all. The used market was pretty non-existant for the CrossContacts and the Alenzas were priced too high for the tread they had left.

I decided to check Bestusedtires.com again since I had good luck finding cheap and nearly new H/L 400 there years ago, but didn't find much. I then tried eBay and found four H/L 422 Ecopias for under $100 each ($85, $90, $90, and $100) all free shipping from the same seller, so I got them. Another $20 each to mount them, and I had basically a new set of tires with no less than 8.5/32" (originally they had 10) which should last 55,000 miles easily for under $500 out the door. Good deal. Actually, compare that to the near $800 it would have cost to get new Dueler H/L 400 from Tirerack and have them mounted that would have only lasted another 40-45,000 miles... great deal.

So far, I like these the best of the four I've driven on (OE H/L 400, Some cooper or Dunlop tire, the H/T D684 II on my Saturn, and the new 422 Ecopia), and they are most certainly the quietest of them all. Only been on the snow twice this year, but they seemed to grip pretty well too. The only thing I've noticed it that they give off a weird "sweet burning" smell when you drive on them fast and hot in the summer heat. Think, 70 MPH on a 90 degree day for 200 miles. I actually can't quite describe the smell. It's not necessarily a bad smell, but it certainly one of the chemical compounds in the rubber off-gassing at hot/high speeds. It doesn't bother me though.

Last edited by BenTM; 11-18-2014 at 04:08 PM.
BenTM is offline  
#22 Old 11-18-2014, 10:45 PM
Official TN Member
 
Erics08HL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 65
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
I have the ecopias as my non snow tire. I wouldn't trust them as far as my wife could throw in snow. I run yoko Geolander snow/ice in winter. Just put then on last weekend.

I love the ecopias, they're incredibly smooth and quiet as can be. Grip well and hold when wet also. But as I stated, the tread just isn't built for snow. It'd turn your HL into a sled.
Erics08HL is online now  
#23 Old 11-19-2014, 12:03 AM
AvConsult
 
AVConsult's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Texas
Posts: 2,391
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
Thanks: 5
Thanked 310 Times in 256 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
And here I thought I wrote long posts...

-----------------
'08 Highlander Base with goodies
'02 Highlander V6
'01 Honda Civic
'93 Camry LE V6 (departed)
AVConsult is online now  
#24 Old 11-19-2014, 05:09 AM
02
 
JMSinMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: here
Posts: 3,545
Blog Entries: 1
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Thanks: 4
Thanked 179 Times in 160 Posts
iTrader Score: 3 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erics08HL View Post
I have the ecopias as my non snow tire. I wouldn't trust them as far as my wife could throw in snow. I run yoko Geolander snow/ice in winter. Just put then on last weekend.

I love the ecopias, they're incredibly smooth and quiet as can be. Grip well and hold when wet also. But as I stated, the tread just isn't built for snow. It'd turn your HL into a sled.
That's why I stuck with the Alenza's when it came time to replace tires on the HL. I bought a used Sienna recently that came with the Ecopias but it's going to be parked in the winter.

2004 Toyota Sienna-Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia
2008 Toyota Sequoia- Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2
2009 Toyota Highlander-Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus

2009 Kluger V6 AWD Sport/Debadged/30% tint/V-LED LPF/White Night RLS
JMSinMD is offline  
#25 Old 11-19-2014, 08:02 AM
New TN User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVConsult View Post
And here I thought I wrote long posts...
I did give a warning.
BenTM is offline  
#26 Old 11-19-2014, 12:43 PM
New TN User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Do they make the Alenzas anymore? I see most places dont have them, but only have the Ecopias and Deuler H/L 400s. Are they inferior to the Alenzas?
dbennett78 is offline  
#27 Old 11-19-2014, 09:45 PM
Resident Nutcase
 
sweeneyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 7,745
Blog Entries: 9
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 143 Post(s)
Thanks: 433
Thanked 1,177 Times in 936 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
(Thread Starter)
The alenza was replaced with the alenza plus.

Click Here for the Full List of Mods Done to My Highlander ---->>> 2008 FWD Highlander Limited
sweeneyp is offline  
#28 Old 11-19-2014, 10:20 PM
Toyota Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Arizona
Posts: 157
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Thanks: 4
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
The Alenza Plus has a new UTOG rating and a $20 higher price.

800, A, A
earthltd is offline  
#29 Old 11-20-2014, 10:13 AM
New TN User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Seems like the options to purchase the Alenza's is limited online as well.
dbennett78 is offline  
#30 Old 11-20-2014, 10:15 AM
02
 
JMSinMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: here
Posts: 3,545
Blog Entries: 1
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Thanks: 4
Thanked 179 Times in 160 Posts
iTrader Score: 3 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbennett78 View Post
Seems like the options to purchase the Alenza's is limited online as well.
The Alenza's are out of production, the Alenza Plus are available on Tire Rack, etc.

2009 Kluger V6 AWD Sport/Debadged/30% tint/V-LED LPF/White Night RLS
JMSinMD is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Truck, SUV and Van Forums > Highlander Forum > 2nd Generation (2008-2013)

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome