Tire Options and Reviews

[sweeneyp]

First off, thanks to deadrx7conv for starting this off and posting some of this data/information.

There are so many threads that come up saying "I need tires" or "what do yall recommend" etc etc. I figured it would be a good idea to have a single post that has the available tires for the HL, along with what people have thought about them. Make it a centralized place to look and hopefully (if enough people post what they think of their tires) be a good source of information.

This thread will be stickied in the Common Problem/Question Sticky.

Size Options

245/55/19...OE 19" size

245/65/17 OE 17" size

245/60/18 if you source four 18" rims. OE spare 17/19" can be used.

255/45/19 if you buy all five tires, or 235/65/18 if you a source five winter set of 18" wheels. These two sizes are a tad taller than stock, may improve the accuracy of the optimistic dash speedometer, increase inaccuracy of the odometer(longer warranty), and give you that few millimeters of extra clearance when plowing through deep snow on that 20 mile dead-end unpaved road that your GPS told you to turn onto for a shortcut

255/55/19 Another option, like the 255/45/19, its taller than stock and will have the same effect as above. Allows for more tire options.

Tire Options

245/65/17 Brand Model, UTQG:treadware, traction, temperature:
ALL-SEASON:
BFGoodrich Long Trail T/A Tour----------480, A, A
BFGoodrich Rugged Terrain T/A----------480, A, B
BFGoodrich Rugged Trail T/A------------400, A, B
Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia-------640, A, B
Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza-----------600, A, A
Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400--------------400, B, B
Bridgestone Dueler H/T D684 II----------460, A, B
Bridgestone Dueler H/T D689------------180, B, B
Bridgestone Dueler A/T D695------------460, A, B
Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2----------500, A, B
Continental CrossContact LX------------680, A, B
Continental CrossContact LX20----------740, A, B
Continental ContiTrac TR----------------520, A, B
Dunlop Grandtrek ST30------------------360, A, B
Dunlop Rover H/T------------------------500, A, B
Firestone Destination LE 2---------------520, A, B
Firestone Destination A/T----------------460, A, B
General Grabber HTS---------------------640, A, B
Goodyear Assurance CS Fuel Max---------600, A, B
Goodyear Assurance CS TripleTred--------740, A, B
Goodyear Fortera HL Edition--------------540, A, B
Goodyear Wrangler HP All Weather--------440, A, A
Goodyear Wrangler SR-A-----------------500, A, B
Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armour---------520, A, B
Hankook Ventus AS RH07----------------420, A, A
Hankook Dynapro HP RA23---------------500, A, A
Kumho Radial 798 Plus-------------------500, A, A
Kumho Road Venture APT KL51----------600, A, A
Kumho Road Venture AT KL78-----------500, A, B
Kumho Road Venture SAT KL61----------650, A, B
Michelin Latitude Tour-------------------720, A, B
Michelin Latitude Tour HP----------------440, A, A
Michelin Cross Terrain SUV---------------420, A, B
Michelin LTX M/S------------------------440, A, B
Michelin LTX A/T 2-----------------------500, A, B
Pirelli Scorpion STR----------------------520, A, A
Pirelli Scorpion ATR----------------------520, A, B
Toyo Open Country A20-----------------300, A, A
Yokohama Geolander H/T-S--------------500, A, B
Yokohama Geolander A/T-S--------------500, A, A

SNOW:
Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1, no UTQG
Continental ExtremeWinterContact, no UTQG
Firestone Winterforce UV, no UTQG
General Altimax Artic, no UTQG
Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT SUV, no UTQG
Michelin Latitude X-Ice Xi2, no UTQG
Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow, no UTQG

245/55/19 Brand Model, UTQG:treadware, traction, temperature:
ALL-SEASON:
Bridgestone Dueler H/L-400---------------400 B, B
Bridgestone Dueler H/L-422 Ecopedia-----640, A, B
Cooper Discoverer CTS-------------------700, A, B
Dunlop Signature C/S--------------------500, A, B
Falken ZE-912---------------------------360, AA, A
Firestone Destination LE2----------------520, A, B
Goodyear Assurance C/S FuelMax---------600, A, B
Goodyear Assurance C/S TripleTred-------740, A, B
Hankook Ventus AS RH07----------------420, A, A
Kumho Eco Solus KL21-------------------500, A, A
Nitto Crosstek CUV----------------------620, A, B
Toyo OpenCountry HT-------------------640, A, B
Toyo OpenCountry A20------------------320, A, A
Toyo Versado CUV----------------------440, A, B
Yokohama Avid Envigor------------------560, A, A
Yokohama YK580------------------------580, A, A

SNOW:
Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1, no UTQG, studless snow/ice,
Bridgestone Blizzak DM-Z3 discontinued replaced by DM-V1
Goodyear UltraGrip WRT, no UTQG, studless snow/ice
Goodyear UltraGrip Winter, no UTQG, studable snow
Toyo OpenCountry G-02 Plus, ???

255/45/19 Brand Model, UTQG:treadware, traction, temperature:
ALL-SEASON:
Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport---300, A, A
Continental ContiProContact----500, AA, A
Goodyear Eagle LS-2-----------400, A, A

SNOW:
Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3, no UTQG
Pirelli Winter Sottozero Serie II, no UTQG

255/55/19 Brand Model, UTQG:treadware, traction, temperature:
ALL-SEASON:
Bridgestone Dueler H/L ALenza----------600, A, A
Continental 4x4 Contact---------------360, A, A
Dunlop SP SPort SIgnigure-------------460, AA, A
Firestone Destination ST---------------400, A, A
Goodyear Wrangler HP All Weather------440, A, A
Hankook Ventus AS RH07--------------420, A, A
Kumho SOlus KL21---------------------500, A, A
Michelin Latitude Tour HP--------------440, A, A
Pirelli Scorpion ATR (All-Terrain)--------520, A, B
Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season--------600 A, A
Pirelli Scorpion Zero--------------------400, A, A

SNOW:
Michelin Latitude X-Ice Xi2, no UTQG
Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow, no UTQG

If yall know of other tires available, or if some have been discontinued, post and I will edit the list.

Lets try to keep questions out of this thread, if you have one, hunt down another tire thread or start a new one. Instead lets try to keep this thread dedicated to reviewing tires. In other words if you post here, say the tire you use and your thoughts on it. That way when someone is looking for new tires they can see our opinions here instead of having us retype it every-time

[sweeneyp]

245/55/19 Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400's: Total crap, turn away now, don't even consider it.

255/55/19 Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza:

I switched to the 255/55R19 Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza's (from Dueler H/L 400's). Best decision I've made in regards to tires. Paid about $230 + $15 install + tax per tire (just over 1k total) at Costco (Discount Tire was the same price). 65k mile warranty, much better traction (that's really an understatement, especially in rain), much quieter, better handling/faster to respond, and an more aggressive tread. They were like 20 bucks more per tire than the OE Dueler H/L 400's, but well worth it.

I have ~20k on the tires now, and they are aging very good. Looks like I will get 65k miles out of them fairly easily.

[deadrx7conv]

Using a tire calculator for diameter reference:

Size:diameter
255/50/19 29.03" A little short, for the wide/low look
265/35/22 29.30" Rollin' on 22's...
245/65/17 29.54" Stock base Highlander.
245/60/18 29.57" Aftermarket, Sienna minivan, or Lexus Rx SUV, 18" rims.
245/55/19 29.61" Stock Limited Highlander.
245/50/20 29.65" Aftermarket and Venza 20" rims.
235/70/17 29.95" 235mm narrower snow digs better/floats less
235/65/18 30.03" Narrower for snow
255/55/19 30.04" Original upgrade for more tire choices from 5 years back


Other sizes can be used if you want that 'lowrider' or 'offroad' look. You'll have to take your own clearance measurements when building lowriders or rockcrawlers. I do doubt that there are any normal offset <17" rims that will fit our front rotors/calipers. Keep an eye on those 20-28" aftermarket wheel weights(not that the OE 19"s are lite) to prevent excessive suspension/bearing wear.

Not rsepnosible for typos

[mktoyota]

I'm looking to replace my Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400 , I have put 35,000 miles and they need to be replaced. Since we just had good few inches of snow, these tires don't give you good traction. I've looking and reading a lot about the choice of getting second set of winter tires with smaller wheels but it still comes up to 1200-1500 $, plus still need new all-season tires.

I'm considering Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia-------640, A, B

any opinions from people that drive 2008 HL limited?

[MI-Silver-HL]

Originally Posted by sweeneyp

245/55/19 Brand Model, UTQG:treadware, traction, temperature:
ALL-SEASON:
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Toyo OpenCountry HT-------------------440, A, B
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Just noticed the UTQG for this tire is incorrect - it should be 640, A, B

Also, the Toyo OpenCountry HT is available in 255/55/19 with the same UTQC.

The 255 appears to be a better tire as it's speed rated V (up to 149 MPH) where the 245 is speed rated S (up to 112 MPH). (The 255 costs $221/ea vs $180/ea for the 245 at a local retailer.)

[mktoyota]

anyone had expirience with Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia?

Since I decided to purchase all-season tires, I also read reviews on websites for tires (Tirerack,1010tires, Sears, Townfairtire,Pepboys) and I came to conclusions that they are different. Seems that forum should be the most reliable source of information.
Other tires to consider

- Hankook Ventus AS RH07
- Falken Ziex ZE 912

- Continental CrossContact LX20 with ECOPlus tech

Comments?

[dallen3737]

Originally Posted by sweeneyp

245/55/19 Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400's: Total crap, turn away now, don't even consider it.

255/55/19 Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza: I have ~20k on the tires now, and they are aging very good. Looks like I will get 65k miles out of them fairly easily.

I never had a problem with the HL 400's. I just replaced my first set after 45K miles. I prefer the softer compound over some of the higher mileage tires, plus I can get them for about $675.00 a set installed. I just wish Michelin M/S tires were available in 19".

[mktoyota]

I see a lot of people complaining about Dueler H/L 400.

Since this was my first set of tires on my first SUV, I take more caution before buying another set of all-season tires.

[dallen3737]

Originally Posted by mktoyota

I see a lot of people complaining about Dueler H/L 400.

Since this was my first set of tires on my first SUV, I take more caution before buying another set of all-season tires.

It's unfortunate that Michelin doesn't make a 19" tire. One of the reasons I didn't go with the Ecopias was my buddy who gets me my tires said he had a few noise complaints with them. Since I've never used them I can't say for sure. Then Toyo's that came on my car had to be replaced at 15K miles.

[sweeneyp]

Originally Posted by dallen3737

It's unfortunate that Michelin doesn't make a 19" tire.

Check again

Originally Posted by sweeneyp

255/55/19 Brand Model, UTQG:treadware, traction, temperature:
ALL-SEASON:
Michelin Latitude Tour HP--------------440, A, A

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....m=555VR9LTHPXL



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Originally Posted by dallen3737

I never had a problem with the HL 400's. I just replaced my first set after 45K miles. I prefer the softer compound over some of the higher mileage tires, plus I can get them for about $675.00 a set installed. I just wish Michelin M/S tires were available in 19".

Well, my main issue was traction in rain. Going uphill at interstate speeds was just scary. The traction control light would be flashing the entire way up the hill and I would feel the car not be able to maintain speed. The traction on the 400's was just plain sad. Plus they lasted less than 30k miles on mine. My alenza's have 32k miles at the moment on them, and they still have over half the tread left. So 65k miles should come easy.

[dallen3737]

Originally Posted by sweeneyp

Check again



http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....m=555VR9LTHPXL



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Well, my main issue was traction in rain. Going uphill at interstate speeds was just scary. The traction control light would be flashing the entire way up the hill and I would feel the car not be able to maintain speed. The traction on the 400's was just plain sad. Plus they lasted less than 30k miles on mine. My alenza's have 32k miles at the moment on them, and they still have over half the tread left. So 65k miles should come easy.

I didn't see those since I was searching for the same tire size that is on the vehicle. Looks like a nice tire, but I could buy 2 sets of the Bridgestones for what they are charging for the Michelins. If they were the M/S version I may have considered them. I had a chance to get some Nitto Crossteks for around $700.00, but passed since I never used them before. I know a lot of the drifters like using the Nitto brand.

I've never had any issues in the rain even when I get a little 'hot footed" I'm not sure why others are getting less than 40K miles on theirs.

[sweeneyp]

Yeah, I noticed the price, that was really ridiculous. I think I paid ~1k for the alenzas installed at Costco. But as for the Nitto's, I don't think I would want tires drifters use. They generally don't want traction

Well, no arguments there, I am hot footed . But I wasn't flooring it up a hill, just maintaining 70mph. The alenza's don't do it.

[dallen3737]

I guess I should have been more specific on the Michelins. My first preference would be the LTX's. I have had them on several vehicles, they are quiet and last forever.

http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele...2/tire-details

[r1-superstar]

Originally Posted by mktoyota

I'm looking to replace my Bridgestone Dueler H/L 400 , I have put 35,000 miles and they need to be replaced. Since we just had good few inches of snow, these tires don't give you good traction. I've looking and reading a lot about the choice of getting second set of winter tires with smaller wheels but it still comes up to 1200-1500 $, plus still need new all-season tires.

I'm considering Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia-------640, A, B

any opinions from people that drive 2008 HL limited?

I'm on my second set of Stones Dueler H/L Alenzas. They are Excellent tires!!! I have towed trailers to and from the race track, drive to the ski resorts, and tread through thick snow and icy roads including heavy rain. These tires offer high mileage and great traction on my 03 Sequoia. I highly recommend them. And they are QUIET.

Oh, and I always get mt tires from Costco...less than $700 installed after coupons.

[dallen3737]

Originally Posted by r1-superstar

I'm on my second set of Stones Dueler H/L Alenzas. They are Excellent tires!!! I have towed trailers to and from the race track, drive to the ski resorts, and tread through thick snow and icy roads including heavy rain. These tires offer high mileage and great traction on my 03 Sequoia. I highly recommend them. And they are QUIET.

Oh, and I always get mt tires from Costco...less than $700 installed after coupons.

Costco usually has the best prices, but have never been too impressed with the installers at mine. Always love watching them use the impact wrench ( no torque stick used ) to put them on and ten go back with the torque wrench. I've always been lucky to have a contact who gets me the friends and family discount on parts and labor. The mark up on tires is outrageous. I can usually save around $150 to $200 below Tire Rack and then borrow my buddy's shop to install them.