Toyota is now in a spotlight on quality. Any way to take advantage of this...
and highlight the oil line problem?
I know someone who works at Consumer Reports and I'm going to talk to him about this but can anyone else think of any other ways to kick Toyota while they're down? Frankly, I think the chances of the oil line causing an accident are as high as the gas pedal.
Depending on the replies, I may merge this thread with the existing thread regarding the oil line issue in order to keep the details/info in a single thread.
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Depending on the replies, I may merge this thread with the existing thread regarding the oil line issue in order to keep the details/info in a single thread.
I'll defer to your authoritay but I see this as a bit different and specifically didn't post it as a reply in that thread. From what I've seen in there, we all know the technical fix. The issue now is getting Toyota to step up and make it right.
I'm definitely going to pursue my Consumer Reports contact but if anyone else can think of a way to get publicity around this issue, it'd be appreciated.
I just had my '08 HL in for a warranty issue and asked them to fix two other items, one of which they said couldn't be fixed 18 months ago and they were more than willing to accommodate me. Seems they have been told that the word "NO" is not in their vocabulary right now.
I'd say one way to take advantage of the current situation is if you are still under warranty, get those nitpickin' things that bother you fixed on their dime.
I don't believe in kicking somebody when they're down. You may get some incentives out of Toyota but don't expect a half price Highlander anytime soon. Toyota fixed the oil line problem with any V6 Highlander made after 06/08, so I wouldn't even bring that up. As for the gas pedal, they are in the process of fixing that now and when you can finally purchase a 10' the gas pedal will be fixed, so you really have nothing to argue about.
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I don't believe in kicking somebody when they're down. You may get some incentives out of Toyota but don't expect a half price Highlander anytime soon. Toyota fixed the oil line problem with any V6 Highlander made after 06/08, so I wouldn't even bring that up. As for the gas pedal, they are in the process of fixing that now and when you can finally purchase a 10' the gas pedal will be fixed, so you really have nothing to argue about.
I know someone who works at Consumer Reports and I'm going to talk to him about this but can anyone else think of any other ways to kick Toyota while they're down? Frankly, I think the chances of the oil line causing an accident are as high as the gas pedal.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
My local television stations are doing "Investigative Reports" on Toyota now. I suggest calling your local stations and getting a hold of the consumers affairs / investigative reporters and discussing the problem with them. I also would approach it from the view that an oil line failure, that results in a catastrophic engine failure, could easily cause an accident or an underhood fire. I would also point out how the same issue, on the same motor, is being recalled in other models but not the Highlander. How can it be a problem in one vehicle but not another????
This is exactly what's wrong with this country. Everyone is greedy and thinks of nothing but themselves in the near term without thinking about the long term implications of their actions. To correlate to something similar, many of the problems we're having with healthcare costs are related to exorbitant medical malpractice insurance rates, which stem from absolutely ridiculous malpractice lawsuits and the even more ridiculous sums of money that get awarded in those cases. A few people win the lottery with these cases, many of which shouldn't even be defined as malpractice, paid for by all the rest of us.
Go ahead and try to suck away toyota's time and money. You're not going to hurt toyota. Instead, all the rest of us will have a harder time getting our cars in for regular services or legitimate problems while you have them combing your car with a fine toothed comb for every little squeak your paranoid ears pick up. Down the road, when you're shopping for your next toyota, have fun trying to figure out why the prices got higher.
I'm not saying that one person could cause those kinds of repercussions, but if enough did, there will be consequences. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If more people considered Newton's third law of motion and its applicability to other aspects of life, from economics to sociology, this world would be a little bit better.
This is exactly what's wrong with this country. Everyone is greedy and thinks of nothing but themselves in the near term without thinking about the long term implications of their actions. To correlate to something similar, many of the problems we're having with healthcare costs are related to exorbitant medical malpractice insurance rates, which stem from absolutely ridiculous malpractice lawsuits and the even more ridiculous sums of money that get awarded in those cases. A few people win the lottery with these cases, many of which shouldn't even be defined as malpractice, paid for by all the rest of us.
Go ahead and try to suck away toyota's time and money. You're not going to hurt toyota. Instead, all the rest of us will have a harder time getting our cars in for regular services or legitimate problems while you have them combing your car with a fine toothed comb for every little squeak your paranoid ears pick up. Down the road, when you're shopping for your next toyota, have fun trying to figure out why the prices got higher.
I'm not saying that one person could cause those kinds of repercussions, but if enough did, there will be consequences. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If more people considered Newton's third law of motion and its applicability to other aspects of life, from economics to sociology, this world would be a little bit better.
Oh PLuueeeease! You think corporations actually care about YOU?? All they care about is the almighty dollar and their bottom line and how they can cut corners while the american people don't know how. They think we are stupid and what the public doesn't know won't hurt them... Well sorry to say toyota.. YOU WERE WRONG and they now need to know WE ARE WATCHING so they better get thier act together
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Oh PLuueeeease! You think corporations actually care about YOU?? All they care about is the almighty dollar and their bottom line and how they can cut corners while the american people don't know how. They think we are stupid and what the public doesn't know won't hurt them... Well sorry to say toyota.. YOU WERE WRONG and they now need to know WE ARE WATCHING so they better get thier act together
Well, you were right about one thing and one thing only: corporations care about their bottom line. In a true free market economy, they will find their niche and fight to preserve their standing. Toyota's niche is the quality of their workmanship and longevity of their vehicles. If you want a cheap P.O.S. you can buy a kia or hyundai, but if you want a car that's well-built and will last 300,000 miles, you buy a Toyota. They're smart; they know that if people start questioning their workmanship, they will lose their place in the market. They lose their place in the market, they lose their bottom line. They don't have to care about the consumer to care about the quality of their products. It all ties back to their bottom line.
You bought a Toyota; there's no need or reason to try to get them to turn it into a Lexus.
I'd suggest you stop drinking the kool-aid, i.e. watching paranoia-inducing "investigative reports" and 24/7 news channels who have to sensationalize in order to fill up time, and read a book. I'd suggest "The Incredible Bread Machine" for starters, based on your grasp of corporation-consumer relationships and the "bottom line."
Ha. I bet you thought H1N1 was going to kill everyone too!
Well, you were right about one thing and one thing only: corporations care about their bottom line. In a true free market economy, they will find their niche and fight to preserve their standing. Toyota's niche is the quality of their workmanship and longevity of their vehicles. If you want a cheap P.O.S. you can buy a kia or hyundai, but if you want a car that's well-built and will last 300,000 miles, you buy a Toyota. They're smart; they know that if people start questioning their workmanship, they will lose their place in the market. They lose their place in the market, they lose their bottom line. They don't have to care about the consumer to care about the quality of their products. It all ties back to their bottom line.
You bought a Toyota; there's no need or reason to try to get them to turn it into a Lexus.
I'd suggest you stop drinking the kool-aid, i.e. watching paranoia-inducing "investigative reports" and 24/7 news channels who have to sensationalize in order to fill up time, and read a book. I'd suggest "The Incredible Bread Machine" for starters, based on your grasp of corporation-consumer relationships and the "bottom line."
Ha. I bet you thought H1N1 was going to kill everyone too!
LMAO you are so out of touch with reality is comical. If they cared about you and the fact they they would lose customers then they would have made sure their vehicles are up to standards that we expect as consumers, but they did not hence the fact that they are now considered in the same class as domestic brands due to their slipping quality. They care about their bottom line ONLY and cut corners where YOU cannot see, while still touting the fact thay they are TOYOTA QUALITY that we have known for decades. NOT TRUE. They are pulling the wool over our eyes anow now that the shit has hit the fan and they cannot put a hush hush on their little schemes any more, they are doing damage control.. but it is too late. They were caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They IGNORED hundreds of complaints about run away cars way back and did NOTHING about it. They wrote it off as too expensive for them to care about if they needed to recall their cars. Well guess what , NOW they did , and not because they "volunteered" it on their own. A family had to DIE because of their mentality.
You need to wake up and realize the world you live in. You give a hand, they take an arm. When does it end. I peronally am tired of buying shit and paying good money for it, only for it to become problematic and the company just ignoring you until you make a stink and their public image is at risk. NOT the way it should be for a reputable company to act.
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LMAO you are so out of touch with reality is comical. If they cared about you and the fact they they would lose customers then they would have made sure their vehicles are up to standards that we expect as consumers, but they did not hence the fact that they are now considered in the same class as domestic brands due to their slipping quality. They care about their bottom line ONLY and cut corners where YOU cannot see, while still touting the fact thay they are TOYOTA QUALITY that we have known for decades. NOT TRUE. They are pulling the wool over our eyes anow now that the shit has hit the fan and they cannot put a hush hush on their little schemes any more, they are doing damage control.. but it is too late. They were caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They IGNORED hundreds of complaints about run away cars way back and did NOTHING about it. They wrote it off as too expensive for them to care about if they needed to recall their cars. Well guess what , NOW they did , and not because they "volunteered" it on their own. A family had to DIE because of their mentality.
You need to wake up and realize the world you live in. You give a hand, they take an arm. When does it end. I peronally am tired of buying shit and paying good money for it, only for it to become problematic and the company just ignoring you until you make a stink and their public image is at risk. NOT the way it should be for a reputable company to act.
Alright, well, good luck in selling your car and buying another brand. Once you do, I suppose you won't be hanging out here anymore. I'm sure you won't be missed as you've yet to contribute anything worthwhile to the forum. Looking back through your posts, it looks like Chicken Little hacked your computer and is petrified that her Highlander is falling apart and nothing is working the way it's supposed to! At a certain point, you have to chalk it up to user error.
Don't forget to look behind your back every 10 seconds. Don't trust anybody. Always remember, everyone is after you and your money! The only way to survive is to mistrust everyone! The best way to protect yourself is to move to Walden Pond.
Paid $40k for my Highlander. You better believe they'll be replacing that rubber oil line with the metal line.
No gas pedal issue here. Never need to floor it. Think those morons that crashed with the pedal to the floor got what they deserved by driving like that. It also shows the experience of those drivers, and typical drivers on the road. No one has ever heard of 'neutral' or the ignition!
Also, had no problem with the pathetic OE tires, as every new car(regardless of brand) had crappy factory tires. Replaced them early(<25k) and didn't want to have anything to do with the dealer, ToyotaUSA, or the tire company. But, do wish that I wasn't stuck with 19's for rims.
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This is exactly what's wrong with this country. Everyone is greedy and thinks of nothing but themselves in the near term without thinking about the long term implications of their actions. To correlate to something similar, many of the problems we're having with healthcare costs are related to exorbitant medical malpractice insurance rates, which stem from absolutely ridiculous malpractice lawsuits and the even more ridiculous sums of money that get awarded in those cases. A few people win the lottery with these cases, many of which shouldn't even be defined as malpractice, paid for by all the rest of us.
Go ahead and try to suck away toyota's time and money. You're not going to hurt toyota. Instead, all the rest of us will have a harder time getting our cars in for regular services or legitimate problems while you have them combing your car with a fine toothed comb for every little squeak your paranoid ears pick up. Down the road, when you're shopping for your next toyota, have fun trying to figure out why the prices got higher.
I'm not saying that one person could cause those kinds of repercussions, but if enough did, there will be consequences. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If more people considered Newton's third law of motion and its applicability to other aspects of life, from economics to sociology, this world would be a little bit better.
There's a known defect that Toyota isn't addressing and that's what I'm talking about. What does this have to do with the break down of western civilization?
Simply stated, Toyota used a low quality part in the Highlander engine but has addressed the issue in other cars with the same engine and/or in other markets. Why aren't they willing to fix it here?
Is it too much to ask that Toyota fix it on the Highlander also?
To address your point about the cars getting more expensive, I can only state that you know nothing about capitalism.
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