Hey All,
Street parked our base 4x4 Highlander on the mean streets of NYC last night and it looks like someone decided to kick our heated drivers side mirror off it's base. Ripped the bolt right out of the assembly and now I need a new mirror assembly.
Found a three different types of mirrors on eBay; power, non-heated; power, heated (the one I need); and power, heated AND puddle (the one I want!).
From looking at the pictures, the harnesses are similiar, but they are definitely different. The non-puddle harness has an additional 2 pin connector off the side, and the main harnesses appear to be one pin off on each.
Has anyone tried fitting the puddle mirrors from what I believe is the HiHy into their non-puddle mirrored Highlander?
Here's a photo illustrating the differences between the two harnesses:
I added puddle lamps to my base highlander. I actually added the 2011 toyota sienna limited mirrors to my car so I have the power folding option as well. I had to do all custom wiring. As for the puddle lamps, I wired it to the dome lights. However, it is simple wiring so it isn't perfect. For instance, when I turn on the dome lights in the car, the puddle lamps turn on as well. The map lights turn on the puddle lamps when both are on but not when only one is on. This is because I added the positive switch to one side and the negative switch to the other. If you can find a more sophisticated way of wiring the puddle lamps, this might be an option. For instance, wiring it to the ring light around the key hole might help. I noticed this turns on and fades like the dome lights do when using the FOB.
I added puddle lamps to my base highlander. I actually added the 2011 toyota sienna limited mirrors to my car so I have the power folding option as well. I had to do all custom wiring. As for the puddle lamps, I wired it to the dome lights. However, it is simple wiring so it isn't perfect. For instance, when I turn on the dome lights in the car, the puddle lamps turn on as well. The map lights turn on the puddle lamps when both are on but not when only one is on. This is because I added the positive switch to one side and the negative switch to the other. If you can find a more sophisticated way of wiring the puddle lamps, this might be an option. For instance, wiring it to the ring light around the key hole might help. I noticed this turns on and fades like the dome lights do when using the FOB.
how you did this ? Do you have more info and pics on this swap ???
Thanks !!!
Hi all,
I sent a PM to YFH_N&J_09Highlander asking for details and have gotten some detailed replies. He said it was ok for me to post them here so:
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01-14-2012, 05:24 PM
Hi,
My mistakes are your gain. If you are looking to add turn signals to your mirrors with the power folding feature, just find some 2011+ Sienna Limited only, used mirrors. These come with reverse tilt, memory, puddle lights, inglass turn signals, heat, power folding, and auto dimming. I am only using the puddle lights, inglass turn signals, and power folding.
I had bought the 2010+ 4Runner mirror covers for my car originally, the ones with the turn signals. These were great and snapped right in, in place of the original highlander mirror covers (the part of the mirror that is the same color/paint as your car) These gave my Highlander turn signals on the outside cover. Loved it, but still didn't have the power folding mirrors that I really wanted.
Therefore, bought Sienna mirrors which also look the same as the highlander, 4runner, and now 2012+ tacoma mirrors. But unfortunately, it wasn't as plug and play as I had thought. At first, I bought a set of highlander mirrors thinking that I could use the mirror mounts on the Highlander to hold the Sienna Mirrors. This turned out to be wrong. So what happened was the Sienna mirror, like the highlander mirror is attached to the mirror mounts by three hexagon screws. However, the Sienna mirror mount is flat, and comes with a tab which acts like a track to control the turning of the mirror when folding in and out. The highlander mirror mount is much deeper and comes with a metal mirror mount that fits inside. Though, some modification and plastic moulding may have fixed my problems, I instead chose to swap the mirror mounts between the Sienna and the Highlander. The mirror mount, in case your are wondering are the parts of the mirror assembly that attaches to the car door with three bolts behind the plastic cover on the inside of your car. Anyhow, I sawed off the part of the mirror mounts that stick out of the car and that your actual mirror housing sits on. I swapped these two mirror mounts between the Sienna and Highlander, did some moulding with jb weld, recommended for strong connection. But not recommended for body work. But I ended up using it. Had it repainted with a slightly low-gloss black to match the original color of the abs plastic of the mirror mounts.
Once that was complete, it was a complete swap of using the Sienna mirror assembly with the Highlander/Sienna swapped mirror mounts.
The wiring is another thing. I can attach a diagram once I figure out how to on this forum. But have a power folding switch form a jdm scion xb which was plug and play with original highlander mirror controls. This had extra two pins which are for the power folding.
It is a lot of work and was a lot more complicated than I had hoped for, so if you need me to continue, I can.....
01-16-2012, 10:50 AM
I got to take pictures and a video later.
I got a wiring diagram which was a little wrong when it came to the mirror controls. It also doesn't really matter about the wiring plugs because I ended up cutting off the highlander one to remove the mirror assembly from the mount, and for the Sienna. Also, the Sienna has 16 wires on each mirror. The base Highlander had only 3 that I remember. This is because the base highlander didn't come with heat. It only has 3 wires for the mirror control. The limited highlander came with 7 wires. 2 for heat, 2 for puddle, and the 3 for the control. For the Sienna swap, we are adding 9 more wires, although I am not entirely sure how to hook up the reverse tilt, and the memory.
Anyhow, I used a total of 2 for power folding, 3 for mirror controls, 3 for heat and puddle lamps (although I didn't hook up heat), 2 for led in-glass turn signal and mirror cover turn signal, 2 for auto dimming (although wired, not hooked up). So this leaves 4 wires left for memory and reverse tilt.
PF = red/blue wire and orange/gray wire
MC = white wire, red wire, yellow wire
PL = pink wire, green/yellow wire
HT = pink wire, and black wire
TS = brown wire and brown/yellow wire
AD = green wire and purple wire
Left over wires = light blue, light green, gray, and gray/red wires.
I also make no guarantees on this wiring to be the same on all cars. I just had a 12v hook up and tested each wire on the Sienna mirrors until everything worked.
Good luck and hope this helps.
Anyhow, for anyone else reading this post, if you buy the 2010+ 4 runner mirror covers, and the led turn signals, this should be plug and play with the highlander mirrors, and you can have turn signals in your mirror.
This is a simpler mod although it still requires you to take apart the mirrors and run the wires through the rubber grommets that connect your door to your car.
Good luck.
For the Sienna mirrors to work, it requires surgery. The highlander mirror mount is completely different from the Sienna mirror mount although externally, they may look the same, it is the inside that makes all the difference. If anyone has the chance, for instance, the Sienna mirror mount has a larger plastic cover, about the size of a potato chip that covers the three hexagon screws that hold the mirror assembly to the mirror mount while the highlander has a much smaller mirror cover which only covers two of the three hexagon screws that hold the mirror assembly.
Peace!
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01-17-2012, 10:04 AM
Some corrections to the original wiring:
PF (power folding) = green/yellow and silver/orange wires
AD (Auto Dimming) = (+) dark green, (-) purple (very critical to get this right)
TS (LED turn signal) = (=) brown/yellow, (-) brown
PL (Puddle Light) = red/blue and pink wires
HT (Heat) = (black and pink wires)
MC (mirror controls) = red, yellow, white wires........
red from sienna mirror to lt. brown on highlander (wrong)
yellow from sienna mirror to red/silver on highlander (wrong)
white from sienna mirror to purple/silver on highlander (wrong)
NOTE: the mirror controls are some what reversed so please experiment first. I had it hooked up like what is listed above at first but it ended up being backwards. But basically, the mirror controls are a one for one wire swap. So test each wire first before hooking it up. it helps to have two people where one can control the mirrors and the other one can say nay or yes for the correct controls. sorry i didn't take the time to document the second test.
Personally, too, I would hook up the puddle lamps in the future to the key hole light near the ignition because it fades and turns on with the door opening which the puddle lamps should do anyhow instead of the dome lights. This is the worst part of my mod.
The auto dim I didn't hook up but have intentions to do in the future to a rocker switch on one of the dummy panels on the dash. The (+) (-) must be correct otherwise the autodim feature can brake your mirror. So test the two wires first. Also, I am not sure if this is correct either because the mirror turns awfully dark almost black when I had power running through it whereas most autodim mirrors turn green/blue when dimming lights, so please do at your own risk.
YFH_N&J_09Highlander it looks good all the work. We really need pictures and Steps to go thru with this mod. To post picture here just go to photobucket.com and create an account free n upload the pics there.. Then, just copy the link of the picture.
Once thats done, come here to the message and "click on insert image here on the message tab" just PASTE the URL website from photobucket.. You have to do this pic by pic .. simple..
QUESTION ???
1)HOW MUCH FOR THE SIENNA Limited MIRRORS ?,.. I dont know if im right but on the oem website the ones with power folding is 600 ?? is that right ?.. CANT be...
2)were did you wire the power folding wires to ? the switch..? from the switch to where etc ? .
the auto diming what it does ?, isnt the same as puddle light??arent on the same bulb? ? etc ??.im kind of confused...
The LED turn signals will connect eventually to the turn lights, heat to same heat, and mirroc controls to same mirror controls..
We need steps , details, pics ...LOL
Thanks for the help
1)HOW MUCH FOR THE SIENNA Limited MIRRORS ?,.. I dont know if im right but on the oem website the ones with power folding is 600 ?? is that right ?.. CANT be...
2)were did you wire the power folding wires to ? the switch..? from the switch to where etc ? .
the auto diming what it does ?, isnt the same as puddle light??arent on the same bulb? ? etc ??.im kind of confused...
The LED turn signals will connect eventually to the turn lights, heat to same heat, and mirroc controls to same mirror controls..
1) you'd be surprised how expensive OEM parts. after that previous post, I started looking into the 4runner's mirror covers with turn signals. It was 80 for just the turn signal + like 30 for the cover so it was like 110 each side for just covers + signals. OEM is not cheap, so 600 honestly sounds about right for a whole mirror assembly.
2)I imagine you would have to run a wire-harness for the power folding mirrors to have a 12v source, then wire that into a switch you can place in those blanks on the dash/center console, though a wire diagram would be needed for the sienna's power folding system to confirm that/what is actually needed.
if auto diming is like the rear view mirror (dims when headlights are shinning into it), i bet it only needs 12v source and ground to work, that would be pretty easy to do, just another wire-harness through the door.
But yep you would wire the turn signal into a turn signal in the car (I would just tap the + line at a turn signal bulb in the engine bay or back of the car), new heat wires to old heat wires, and mirror controls to same mirror controls.
but again that's just a guess/slight idea on how it would work to give you an idea.
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On Toyotapartsbarn, the sienna mirrors were listed at 900+ ea. side , with website discount, 600+ (not much better).
But........
Found some on ebay, one used, and one brand new for about $250 new and $200 used on bids. Source the parts. I know, I know,......
It is still really expensive......you may be able to find some cheaper if you go to a junk yard or search the internet for a while. Good luck.
But don't buy 4runner mirrors, highlander mirrors, and then sienna mirrors like I did and waste even more money.
If you really want the power folding feature, than this mod is worth every penny. Especially here in Hawaii where parking stalls are kind of tight, like 8'-6" wide and 8'-3" wide.
found that 06-10 mirrors on sienna come power folding and turning signal n puddle option on the limited version for $427,.. VS the $685 price of the 2011 limited mirror version..
Im wondering which on u got used on ebay !... since both have 16pins connection.. I see many on ebay for about 280 sienna 06+ limited.. I bet you got one of those.. since on the original post you stated had to be a 2011+ ..
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Originally Posted by YFH_N&J_09Highlander
On Toyotapartsbarn, the sienna mirrors were listed at 900+ ea. side , with website discount, 600+ (not much better).
But........
Found some on ebay, one used, and one brand new for about $250 new and $200 used on bids. Source the parts. I know, I know,......
It is still really expensive......you may be able to find some cheaper if you go to a junk yard or search the internet for a while. Good luck.
But don't buy 4runner mirrors, highlander mirrors, and then sienna mirrors like I did and waste even more money.
If you really want the power folding feature, than this mod is worth every penny. Especially here in Hawaii where parking stalls are kind of tight, like 8'-6" wide and 8'-3" wide.
I specifically made sure I got the 2011+ Sienna Limited Mirrors because the mirrors are very different between the 2nd generation Sienna and the Third Generation Sienna. You need to make sure you get the 3rd Generation Limited Sienna Mirrors. The 06+ mirror covers look different.
See photo of 2nd generation mirror covers
Versus the 3rd generation mirror:
I just got lucky on ebay really. The $427 sounds expensive.
I was able to get mines for about $250 and $200 like I said. The
Again, make sure you get 2011+ Sienna Limited mirrors.
Here are pictures of the 4 runner mirror covers which I got:
I'm' interested in this as well. Will look at the harness on my '11 SE today and see if its already prewired for puddle lights.
Photos taken from ebay.
Harness w/ Puddle lights
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but I'm going to anyways.
With the SE already prewired for puddle lights on the mirrors, would it be safe to assume I can run wiring to the puddle light part of this harness to add LED strips under the running boards for puddle lights? I have a '12 SE and from all indications, there isn't anything really different between it and an '11. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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yes you should be able to. assuming at the harness is actually connected on the other side. (getting the signal to power the puddle lights) it should be as simply as just tapping into the wires in the harness.
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Yes. I have the 4 runner mirror covers and the sienna mirror assembly.
My entire mirror setup is the toyota highlander oem mirror mounts merged with the sienna mirror mounts. Again, I just cut off the seat which the mirror assembly sits on from the sienna and highlander with a hack saw. Glued and swapped the sienna mirror seat onto the highlander mirror mount. This saved me from having to modify the screw holes that hold the actual mirror to the seat. Glued the seat with jbweld for strength. Make sure the angle is pretty even and matches the original highlander mirror seat angle.
As for the mirror, the 4runner covers do not snap on as easily to the sienna mirror as it originally did for my highlander mirror. The tabs on the back of the 4runner mirror cover, I simply snapped off and glued the cover with silicone to the sienna mirror for the finished look.
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