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Old 09-04-2011, 12:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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With winter just a few months away I am considering a set of winter wheels / tires and find myself confused and horrified at the $$$$. My tire shop gave me (all 17 inch sets) quotes of $1790 for steel $1990 for alloy, Tirerack.com came in at $1850 delivered.

Steel wheels would suffice for winter tires in my opinion but they seem to be hard to find. My local tire shop "thinks" they can get something to fit, it seems there is a possible issue with clearance to the brakes. On this forum there is a reference by someone that RAV4 steel wheels will fit the 2011 HL. From http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse...._Reference.cfm It looks like the HL wheel offset changed for 2010 and 2011, in any case the specs for the 2011 HL are the same as all the RAV4.

Can someone confirm that a RAV4 steel wheel will fit. It would make the search a bit easier.. perhaps (second hand comes to mind). My Toyota dealer flat out said there were no steel wheels available for the HL.. but I did not inquire about the RAV4 wheels.

While I think the TPM system is unnecessary.. being as it there I will continue using it rather than have an alarm on my dash. Is one "tied" to using the brand that Toyota uses? Can one use multiple brands at once? (my spare will have the OEM and my new tires will have brand X)

And on a related note.. this forum has a tread on resetting the TPM's. I assume that a reset resets them all to the current tire pressure in each tire. They alarm with a drop of 2~3 psi, so should one have all ones tires set to something lower say 25psi when one does the reset to prevent nuisance alarms?

And.. I take it that a reset is different than activating them initially.. I see reference to people using a ATEQ Quickset... I assume this is a computer kind of gadget to connect the two.. ?? Given the cost of Toyota or a dealer reprogramming twice a year this could be something I want to learn how to use / purchase

Thanks for you time

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With winter just a few months away I am considering a set of winter wheels / tires and find myself confused and horrified at the $$$$. My tire shop gave me (all 17 inch sets) quotes of $1790 for steel $1990 for alloy, Tirerack.com came in at $1850 delivered.

Steel wheels would suffice for winter tires in my opinion but they seem to be hard to find. My local tire shop "thinks" they can get something to fit, it seems there is a possible issue with clearance to the brakes. On this forum there is a reference by someone that RAV4 steel wheels will fit the 2011 HL. From http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse...._Reference.cfm It looks like the HL wheel offset changed for 2010 and 2011, in any case the specs for the 2011 HL are the same as all the RAV4.

Can someone confirm that a RAV4 steel wheel will fit. It would make the search a bit easier.. perhaps (second hand comes to mind). My Toyota dealer flat out said there were no steel wheels available for the HL.. but I did not inquire about the RAV4 wheels.

While I think the TPM system is unnecessary.. being as it there I will continue using it rather than have an alarm on my dash. Is one "tied" to using the brand that Toyota uses? Can one use multiple brands at once? (my spare will have the OEM and my new tires will have brand X)

And on a related note.. this forum has a tread on resetting the TPM's. I assume that a reset resets them all to the current tire pressure in each tire. They alarm with a drop of 2~3 psi, so should one have all ones tires set to something lower say 25psi when one does the reset to prevent nuisance alarms?

And.. I take it that a reset is different than activating them initially.. I see reference to people using a ATEQ Quickset... I assume this is a computer kind of gadget to connect the two.. ?? Given the cost of Toyota or a dealer reprogramming twice a year this could be something I want to learn how to use / purchase

Thanks for you time
While mine is a 2009, and not a 2011, I would be surprised if there is any change to the wheel hub assembly that would not allow the wheels to be interchanged, but I could be wrong. In any case, I will see if I can help.

First, $1,790 to $1,990...ouch. Two years ago (December 2009), I paid $1,400 for my generic steelies and my Yokohama Geolanders (the rims were $300 for the set), plus I think the promotion at the time gave me a $50 gift card somewhere (so in reality, my net cost was $1,350). I know earlier this year (April) that tires jumped in price, but I would think that in a place like Edmonton that better deals would be available when compared to Smalltown, New Brunswick. And I would be shocked if you could not find a set of steel rims that would work for you. Sounds like your stealership is trying to make a buck selling you a second set of alloys. There are some good dealerships out there, but mine is not one of them either (the service manager at my dealership doesn't even know how to measure the tread depth on a tire).

As for TPMS sensors, I wouldn't waste your money. My winters do not have them. The TPMS warning light sometimes comes on...sometimes doesn't (my all seasons, with the TPMS sensors, are stored in my garage just a few feet from my HL, so the HL gets to read these everytime I park it in my garage). Bottom line, there is no audible alarm; there is no error message on the MFD; the only thing is this small yellow light that (if it comes on at all) flashes for a few seconds, and then stays lit. In all honesty, I barely notice it being on at all.

As for the TPMS, resetting them and setting them up initially should be the same. I wouldn't set them at a lower psi to reduce the number of nuisance alarms. After 2.5 years, I have never had, nor heard of a nuisance alarm with the TPMS.

Hope this helps you a bit.
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With winter just a few months away I am considering a set of winter wheels / tires and find myself confused and horrified at the $$$$. My tire shop gave me (all 17 inch sets) quotes of $1790 for steel $1990 for alloy, Tirerack.com came in at $1850 delivered.

Steel wheels would suffice for winter tires in my opinion but they seem to be hard to find. My local tire shop "thinks" they can get something to fit, it seems there is a possible issue with clearance to the brakes. On this forum there is a reference by someone that RAV4 steel wheels will fit the 2011 HL. From http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse...._Reference.cfm It looks like the HL wheel offset changed for 2010 and 2011, in any case the specs for the 2011 HL are the same as all the RAV4.

Can someone confirm that a RAV4 steel wheel will fit. It would make the search a bit easier.. perhaps (second hand comes to mind). My Toyota dealer flat out said there were no steel wheels available for the HL.. but I did not inquire about the RAV4 wheels.

While I think the TPM system is unnecessary.. being as it there I will continue using it rather than have an alarm on my dash. Is one "tied" to using the brand that Toyota uses? Can one use multiple brands at once? (my spare will have the OEM and my new tires will have brand X)

And on a related note.. this forum has a tread on resetting the TPM's. I assume that a reset resets them all to the current tire pressure in each tire. They alarm with a drop of 2~3 psi, so should one have all ones tires set to something lower say 25psi when one does the reset to prevent nuisance alarms?

And.. I take it that a reset is different than activating them initially.. I see reference to people using a ATEQ Quickset... I assume this is a computer kind of gadget to connect the two.. ?? Given the cost of Toyota or a dealer reprogramming twice a year this could be something I want to learn how to use / purchase

Thanks for you time

a buddy of mine sold me his 2009 RAV4 steelies, it's a 17 X 6.5, I am planning to use these for my winter set up on my 2011 HL, last weekend I removed one of the front wheels on my HL and tried to fit the rav4 steelies (without the tires yet), it fits in quite nicely clearing the brake calipers, I do not think I will have a problem with the offset as some members here are already using the same wheel set up, there should not be much difference between the 09 and the 2011`s, hope this helps
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Can't go wrong with these, I got 4-5 winters out of them in NH on a Pilot...

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You know you don't really need another set of sensors...
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I want to know of a puncture or slow leak in the winter just as much as in the summer and I don't want to mount/ummount tires just to use the same sensors.
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Actually it makes more sense to use the pressure monitoring system in the winter than summer.. IMO... Bead leaks are much more likely when it is -25 and changing a tire..never much fun is even less fun in the winter in a howling wind.
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