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Old 09-14-2011, 03:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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is 2011 Highlander navigation a low resolution product?

I just tried a 2011 Highlander Limited with Nav. The resolution appears quite grainy and low resolution compared to the other cars that I have seen. Particularly the Audi Q5, Lexus RX 350 (2009 model).

Does anybody know if Highlander Nav is lower resolution or whether it is possible that the settings were wrong on the car I drove?

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we have a 2011 Limited with navi and I havent' done a comprehensive comparo with other nav systems, but it does seem to have below average resolution.

I think competitors' navs have higher resolution screens, but its probably not fair to compare it to luxury class vehicles like Audi, Lexus....that's probably one way to differentiate Lexus from Toyota, a higher quality screen, more features, etc.

But it does seem a little dated to me, especially in a 2011/2012 vehicle.
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my '08 nav looks like Windows 98
Truly shame on Toyota... iPhone has 10 times better touch screen...
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we have a 2011 Limited with navi and I havent' done a comprehensive comparo with other nav systems, but it does seem to have below average resolution.
I checked Nissan Murano NAV yesterday. And that seemed like a better screen than Toyota's. Even though Murano's screen was not as good as the Audi. So Toyota seems to be like the bottom on this front.

Also, I have heard that Toyota does not allow even the co-passenger to enter new address if the car is moving. Is that true?
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Some features are locked when moving but I have found it to be easy to use voice commands to enter an address.
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Even 2010 maps can be modified with 2005 loader to allow manual override. The problem is that you will need to do the simple override sequence every time you start the engine.
There are aftermarket solutions too, but they are very expensive (~$300 range I heard)
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to be fair to Toyota, I don't think you should be buying a vehicle based upon the navigation system, there are much more important things like handling, power, fuel economy, safety, passenger and cargo room, reliability and maintenance costs, etc.

Get the vehicle you want and pay $200 for a Garmin.
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to be fair to Toyota, I don't think you should be buying a vehicle based upon the navigation system, there are much more important things like handling, power, fuel economy, safety, passenger and cargo room, reliability and maintenance costs, etc.

Get the vehicle you want and pay $200 for a Garmin.
+1 on Garmin
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to be fair to Toyota, I don't think you should be buying a vehicle based upon the navigation system, there are much more important things like handling, power, fuel economy, safety, passenger and cargo room, reliability and maintenance costs, etc.

Get the vehicle you want and pay $200 for a Garmin.
But will not have rear view camera without the Nav
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But will not have rear view camera without the Nav
If you go with the base models you wont have the back up cam but I have the sport so I do have the camera. Or you can buy those rear view mirrors with built in back up camera.
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If you go with the base models you wont have the back up cam but I have the sport so I do have the camera. Or you can buy those rear view mirrors with built in back up camera.
I also like the leather and the wood trim in the Limited package. Wondering if I can get the rear view camera, get Limited interiors and skip the Nav. Got to explore that.

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why do you need a backup camera? You have a rearview mirror and side mirrors.

People did pretty good w/out cameras.

Toyota's camera sucks. It doesn't have sonar, no beeping, it doesn't even put lines on the screen to help you park like a Ford, GM or Chrysler.

Also, when you really need it, like when its raining, the camera lens gets all blurry and unusable.

Can't people back up without cameras? This to me is one of those not very helpful technologies.

The highlander isn't a particular large vehicle.
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I also like the leather and the wood trim in the Limited package. Wondering if I can get the rear view camera, get Limited interiors and skip the Nav. Got to explore that.

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Sounds like a good idea! I have heated leather seats and all the other goodies except the Nav and the JBL system. Good Luck!
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why do you need a backup camera? You have a rearview mirror and side mirrors.

People did pretty good w/out cameras.

Toyota's camera sucks. It doesn't have sonar, no beeping, it doesn't even put lines on the screen to help you park like a Ford, GM or Chrysler.

Also, when you really need it, like when its raining, the camera lens gets all blurry and unusable.

Can't people back up without cameras? This to me is one of those not very helpful technologies.

The highlander isn't a particular large vehicle.
The highlander might not be a real long vehicle (but not short at the same time), but it does make life easy when parallel parking in a tight spot.
Honestly I don't think the lines/sonar are necessary when you have the camera right in front of you, that does seem like overkill.
Sure during the rain it gets a few drops hanging over the lens, but you can still see out of it so I wouldn't say its completely unusable.
Plus my previous vehicle was a good deal shorter than the highlander so it took awhile to get used to the new length so it came in handy then when backing up into spots/parallel parking etc...
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I also like the leather and the wood trim in the Limited package. Wondering if I can get the rear view camera, get Limited interiors and skip the Nav. Got to explore that.

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Rear view camera is standard on the limited (with all the interior features) and without nav it comes up on the 3.5" screen. Plus you can still get the JBL system if you want without nav. Might be hard to find on a limited on a dealership lot as most I have seen have the nav with it, but you might get lucky.
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