I am planning to buy 2012 Highlander V6 4WD. I live in Canada where we get temperature up to -30C (-22F) in winters. I wanted to know what is the real world fuel economy 2011/2012 V6 with 4WD have? Could you guys share your experiences?
I am planning to buy 2012 Highlander V6 4WD. I live in Canada where we get temperature up to -30C (-22F) in winters. I wanted to know what is the real world fuel economy 2011/2012 V6 with 4WD have? Could you guys share your experiences?
Welcome to TN. What part of Canada are you from? I am in Atlantic Canada and the temps that you mention are similar to what we get. My first piece of advice is to invest in a set of winter tires. The OEM tires suck.
Back to your question, with my winter tires (more drag than my all seasons), I typically drive 60/40 city/highway, and get 14 to 15 l/100km (all highway I would be around 10 to 11). In the summer, I can get down to 9.4 l/100km with all highway driving but typically get 12 to 14 in mixed driving.
hope this helps.
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2005 Corolla CE, Canadian Edition, Silver with grey interior, automatic transmission, CD changer, cruise control, rear bumper protector.
Thats not bad. I live in the prairie region where winters are cold and summers are hot. The other option I am thinking to get HL Hybrid but not sure if extra money worth investing and looks like it will take 7 , 8 years (If the fuel price stays the same) to get the return.
Thats not bad. I live in the prairie region where winters are cold and summers are hot. The other option I am thinking to get HL Hybrid but not sure if extra money worth investing and looks like it will take 7 , 8 years (If the fuel price stays the same) to get the return.
Don't forget that during the colder temperatures, the hybrid system will be pretty much ineffective (or at least very inefficient). You can try using the search feature on this forum to see what experiences people are having with these in colder climates. When I bought mine, it was a $5K adder which I was not willing to pay. I would definitely make the same choice today.
You can also use the search feature to see what sort of mileage people are getting, as there have been several threads on that topic.
__________________ 2009 Highlander Limited
2005 Corolla CE, Canadian Edition, Silver with grey interior, automatic transmission, CD changer, cruise control, rear bumper protector.
Don't forget that during the colder temperatures, the hybrid system will be pretty much ineffective (or at least very inefficient). You can try using the search feature on this forum to see what experiences people are having with these in colder climates. When I bought mine, it was a $5K adder which I was not willing to pay. I would definitely make the same choice today.
You can also use the search feature to see what sort of mileage people are getting, as there have been several threads on that topic.
Something the car salesmen seem to often neglect to tell potential buyers, and way too many buyers do not research hybrid cars to find out. When I buy something as expensive as a car I research it out the ying yang....I want to know what I'm buying.
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2008 Highlander Base 4WD
2002 Avalon XL
1987 Suzuki Samurai 4X4 - Treading where no Jeep can follow....
but it still looks good deal when you see in the summer, fall and spring you can still get decent fuel economy after all there aren't many days with temperature -20 or below on the other hand V6 will give you same fuel economy. Although I agree that Hybrid is pricey but they are giving 8 years warranty of battery and other hybrid components.
So how long do you figure the payback period is? You mention 7~8 years, if the batteries need replacing just when you thought your breaking even..your payback just went out the window.
To me... a hybrid is only worth it if you want to make a statement and the financial aspect is not important. As well.. in my opinion, the hybrid or electric is just passing the buck. That electricity is still being made by burning fossil fuel. There is a saving by not paying the gasoline tax.. but that is putting a higher burden on the rest of us and at some point the governments will have to correct this.
So how long do you figure the payback period is? You mention 7~8 years, if the batteries need replacing just when you thought your breaking even..your payback just went out the window.
To me... a hybrid is only worth it if you want to make a statement and the financial aspect is not important. As well.. in my opinion, the hybrid or electric is just passing the buck. That electricity is still being made by burning fossil fuel. There is a saving by not paying the gasoline tax.. but that is putting a higher burden on the rest of us and at some point the governments will have to correct this.
Calculation is based on if the gas price stays same in the next six years. I dont see they are going down for fact. Why it will put extra burden on rest of you? I know many countries govt. are giving incentives to buy Hybrid vehicles.
I don't believe you can get much advantage from hybrid technology under "normal" driving condition. It only makes sense if you live in a warmer climate and drive in congested city conditions (LA or SF make good example). Gas prices normally elevated in places like that as well. Even then HL hybrid will not save any money on a long run. I'd go for for a Prius or new Camry hybrid if I'd live there.
Why it will put extra burden on rest of you? I know many countries govt. are giving incentives to buy Hybrid vehicles.
That price per gallon includes a lot of tax. All levels of government in all countries to varying degrees take their cut. At one time part of the tax was actually designated as a road tax.. meant for replacing building new etc. Now it is "just" included in general revenues. In any case roads cost money to build and maintain. As an individual the loss of your share (because you no longer buy gas) is insignificant... but.. as more and more people opt out the government(s) are going to require that revenue from someplace.
Yes.. there are lots of incentives to buy Hybrid's. This is to encourage development of the technology.. but...it adds big time to your (and our) deficit. There is no free lunch as the saying goes and that refund you get is charged to someone else.. with interest.
That price per gallon includes a lot of tax. All levels of government in all countries to varying degrees take their cut. At one time part of the tax was actually designated as a road tax.. meant for replacing building new etc. Now it is "just" included in general revenues. In any case roads cost money to build and maintain. As an individual the loss of your share (because you no longer buy gas) is insignificant... but.. as more and more people opt out the government(s) are going to require that revenue from someplace.
Yes.. there are lots of incentives to buy Hybrid's. This is to encourage development of the technology.. but...it adds big time to your (and our) deficit. There is no free lunch as the saying goes and that refund you get is charged to someone else.. with interest.
My friend you are forgetting one big fact, the world's population is increasing ... every day more and more vehicles are coming on the road. It doesn't matter if more people buy hybrid, there are many more vehicles on the road than 20 years ago and there will be more people driving vehicles in the next ten years. There wont be any loss of share.
In regards to the mileage that you get when driving a hybrid, keep in mind that when you are driving at highway speed, the benefit is greatly reduced, if not eliminated. Hybrids shine in stop-and-go city traffic. If you do alot of highway driving, then a hybrid may not be beneficial.
Hopefully some HL Hybrid owners can pipe in and give you some real world fuel efficiency numbers to better help your comparison.
In my mind, a 7 to 8 year payback on anything for a vehicle is too long. Don't forget to factor in taxes, interest, and depreciation on that incremental cost difference for a hybrid. What are the chances that you will have this vehicle in 7 to 8 years? It may be good, but you never know what might happen.
Also, the maximum towing capacity of a hybrid is only 3500lbs, I believe, and not 5000 lbs like the HL V6 gasoline engine.
These are all factors that I considered when looking at a HL hybrid. For me, it was not the right choice, but perhaps it is for you. If you haven't already, you should google hybrid fuel economy and see what everyone says. There is also a hybrid car forum. Good luck.
__________________ 2009 Highlander Limited
2005 Corolla CE, Canadian Edition, Silver with grey interior, automatic transmission, CD changer, cruise control, rear bumper protector.
In regards to the mileage that you get when driving a hybrid, keep in mind that when you are driving at highway speed, the benefit is greatly reduced, if not eliminated. Hybrids shine in stop-and-go city traffic. If you do alot of highway driving, then a hybrid may not be beneficial.
Hopefully some HL Hybrid owners can pipe in and give you some real world fuel efficiency numbers to better help your comparison.
In my mind, a 7 to 8 year payback on anything for a vehicle is too long. Don't forget to factor in taxes, interest, and depreciation on that incremental cost difference for a hybrid. What are the chances that you will have this vehicle in 7 to 8 years? It may be good, but you never know what might happen.
Also, the maximum towing capacity of a hybrid is only 3500lbs, I believe, and not 5000 lbs like the HL V6 gasoline engine.
These are all factors that I considered when looking at a HL hybrid. For me, it was not the right choice, but perhaps it is for you. If you haven't already, you should google hybrid fuel economy and see what everyone says. There is also a hybrid car forum. Good luck.
+1 What he said.
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2008 Highlander Base 4WD
2002 Avalon XL
1987 Suzuki Samurai 4X4 - Treading where no Jeep can follow....
Is that true that most of you are getting 12/13 L per 100 KM? coz thats not much compare to a 4 cylinder crossover that typically gives 10/11 L per 100 KM ! Anyone else would like to advise about their mileage experience? Thanks
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