Just changed my auto tranny oil and although the shop manual calls for 2.1 qts. for a drain and refill, that didn't even bring the level up to the lower cool mark. I noticed after I drained the oil that it seemed like more than 2 qts of oil just by weight and volume in the drain pan. Unfortunately, I didn't measure the amount of oil. If I had, I wouldn't be posting this query.
I have now added 4 qts. of oil to bring the level up to the Hot marks with the tranny warmed up (that is, driven about 25 miles).
Any thoughts on why the 2.1 qts. spec is apparently incorrect? Thanks for any input.
Yeah, I went through the routine that Toyota suggests in one of their on-line FAQs. That is, drive the car for 10-20 miles, shift from"P" to "L" and then back to "P", and check the oil level with the engine running.
I took another 25 mile run just awhile ago, checked the level again and it was about midway between the Cool and Hot mark areas, but the temp of the oil didn't feel hot enough. Gotta do some more experimenting I guess. Thanks for your interest. Larry
Originally posted by deekay140 4 quarts on a drain and fill is needed. as far as the 2.1, unless that was liters, its a misprint.
The user manual and the shop manual show the same thing:
"Automatic Transmission:
Fluid capacity (drain and refill)
L (qt, Imp. qt.)
Four-wheel drive models
Up to 2.0 (2.1, 1.8)"
So if it's a misprint, I suspect it may be a leftover entry from a previous year model manual that didn't get updated. The dry fill capacity indicated in the shop manual is 10.8 qts. Larry
Just checked the manual through Toyota online, and you are correct. However, I am a Toyota master tech of 15 yrs and have done thousands of drain and fills on all toyotas. It takes 4 qts. on the 4runner. I think that the owners manuals are written by desk jockeys, who just dont have a clue unless some ( know it all) engineer tells them.
Originally posted by deekay140 Just checked the manual through Toyota online, and you are correct. However, I am a Toyota master tech of 15 yrs and have done thousands of drain and fills on all toyotas. It takes 4 qts. on the 4runner. I think that the owners manuals are written by desk jockeys, who just dont have a clue unless some ( know it all) engineer tells them.
You may be right. As I said, I am now at 4 qts and after I get the temp up to what they spec for checking, I think it will be very close to the Hot marks. Thanks for your input. Larry
I have a 94 V6 with an automatic transmission. The fluid is dark. Twice now I have crawled under the truck and drained the fluid to change it. I just remove the drain plug Only a qt to 1 1/2 qts ever comes out. How do I get it all to come out?
I have a 94 V6 with an automatic transmission. The fluid is dark. Twice now I have crawled under the truck and drained the fluid to change it. I just remove the drain plug Only a qt to 1 1/2 qts ever comes out. How do I get it all to come out?
I don't know the exact capacity of this particular model year, but I assume it is considerably more than what you say is draining out. Did you check the fluid level before draining? Was it low or at the upper mark? If it was at the upper mark, I can't imagine why all the fluid would not drain unless the fluid is being blocked at the drain hole. How many qts does it take to bring it back up to the top mark when you add fluid after draining?
BTW, dark is not good IMO. Could indicate repeated overheating of the tranny. Do you tow heavy loads with the vehicle? May be overheating if you do.
I bought the vehicle used with 265000 KM . It now has 290 on it. No problems as of yet. I changed it as soon as I bought it. I chanfged it again yesterday in the warm temps.
Yes it is to the upper full mark when I begin to drain it
It takes 1 1/2 qts to bring it back up after I change it.
The vehicle has a transmission cooler if that matters
The reason I think it is still dark is because it is not all coming out
I bought the vehicle used with 265000 KM . It now has 290 on it. No problems as of yet. I changed it as soon as I bought it. I chanfged it again yesterday in the warm temps.
Yes it is to the upper full mark when I begin to drain it
It takes 1 1/2 qts to bring it back up after I change it.
The vehicle has a transmission cooler if that matters
The reason I think it is still dark is because it is not all coming out
I assume you are removing the tranny dipstick when you drain the pan? If you left the dipstick in the tube, I suppose that might create a vacuum of sorts and stop the fluid from draining. I doubt that's the case, but I don't have any other ideas except blockage in the pan.
Of course, when you drain the tranny, there is still fluid in the cooler and lines connecting the cooler to the tranny that doesn't drain. (But, I would think that the tranny pan would contain more than 1+ qts.) So you are only changing a portion of the fluid by draining the fluid in the pan. What you end up with is a mix of old and new fluid. If the old fluid is dark (not normal, of course) the mixture would look darker.
If you're really concerned about this, you should consider having the tranny pan removed and cleaned, and the cooler/lines drained.
There are two seperate drain plugs on the transmission and transfer case. Drain both!! the transmission and transfer case share the same ATF and will refill at the same time through the same filler tube. That is if you have the A340H transmission. You can look on the data sheet on the driver's door for which transmission you have to be sure. Get back with that info!!
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Oh yea, by the way the capacities are:
Transmission:
Total 10.9 US qts.
Drain & refill 4.8 US qts.
Transfer:
Total 1.2 US qts.
Drain & Refill 0.8 US qts.
ATF Type is ATF DEXRON* II
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